IEMs for gaming on PS4

Dec 19, 2016 at 3:02 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

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Hello everyone. I am looking for a pair of IEMs that are suitable for gaming. I don't like headphones as every time I wear them my ears get really hot and I end up getting acne around the area. 
 
I am looking to get some earphones to use with my PS4 mainly for gaming, watching shows on Netflix, and movies on Blu Ray. One important thing I need is surround sound, especially for games like Battlefield. I know this is hard to get from earphones but it's my preference. 
 
I've researched a bit and people have suggested that the JVC FX850, the Sony XBA-H3, and the Sennheiser IE80 are suitable choices. I prioritize balanced sound, and most importantly the best surround sound. Are these earphones good enough for my needs? 
 
I assume I also need some sort of DAC to plug into my PS4 so that I can use the earphones. You can plug in earphones/headphones into the DS4 controller but the sound quality isn't that great.
 
Any help is greatly apprEARciated!
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 5:52 PM Post #2 of 10
Astro Mix-amp, optical connection and headphone surround sound.
 
Have you tried using open headphones?
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 6:55 PM Post #3 of 10
Yes I've used open and closed headphones yet I get the same results.
 
I've been using RHA MA750s for a few years now and I don't ever get hot ears or acne anymore.
 
The Astro Mixamp seems like a suitable amp for earphones, but are there any cheaper alternatives? Also, would it be suitable for earphones or is it overkill? In terms of my best choices, do you have any IEMs that you would recommend?
 
Dec 19, 2016 at 7:58 PM Post #4 of 10
  Yes I've used open and closed headphones yet I get the same results.
 
I've been using RHA MA750s for a few years now and I don't ever get hot ears or acne anymore.
 
The Astro Mixamp seems like a suitable amp for earphones, but are there any cheaper alternatives? Also, would it be suitable for earphones or is it overkill? In terms of my best choices, do you have any IEMs that you would recommend?

I'm not into IEMs, so really know nothing about them, besides them be basically tiny headphones ;)
Used Mix-amps well sell for as low as $40.
 
Dec 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM Post #5 of 10
One important thing I need is surround sound, especially for games like Battlefield. I know this is hard to get from earphones but it's my preference.   
I've researched a bit and people have suggested that the JVC FX850, the Sony XBA-H3, and the Sennheiser IE80 are suitable choices. I prioritize balanced sound, and most importantly the best surround sound. Are these earphones good enough for my needs? 
 
I assume I also need some sort of DAC to plug into my PS4 so that I can use the earphones. You can plug in earphones/headphones into the DS4 controller but the sound quality isn't that great.

 
Do you play very competitively? I used to play a lot of Battlefield and had no problems using my Shure se215, but then I was never a typical player (my most used weapon was a knife 
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Going for IEMs such as the IE80s is pretty expensive for gaming and I have no idea if the controller can drive them properly. That said, I just got the Trinity Audio Vyrus and those have a greater sound stage than my Shures at a considerably lower price. Have yet to try them for gaming, but I assume they will be pretty good.
 
Dec 21, 2016 at 5:39 AM Post #7 of 10
 
No competitive play, I just want IEMs that will allow me to hear things around me, especially when there's people like you coming from behind me with a knife!

 
Apologies for being the guy who would suddenly turn you around and take your dog tags!
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I think sound-stage and separation is very important to you. Mind you, I'm no audiophile and have very little experience with different IEMs. It is mainly based on my experience as a gamer.
 
Games such as Battlefield have a lot going on all the time and you need to be able to identify not just the direction of sounds, but also the individual sounds themselves. Footsteps are light and sharp (high end/treble) and can be overpowered by heavy sounds such as explosions or gunfire (low end/bass).
 
Yesterday I tried my new Trinity Vyrus while playing Fallout New Vegas on my old PS3 and the spacial awareness was considerably better than with the Shure se215 because the sound-stage and separation of the Vyrus is better. Trinity Audio has the advantage of providing different filters for the IEMs and I use their gold filter with damper, which creates the best balance between bass and treble and optimises separation, for my ears at least. That made a huge difference to how immersed I felt in the game.
 
I do not know much about the IEMs you mentioned, but had a look at the Sennheiser IE80 before buying the Vyrus and understand that those have a very good sound-stage and the option to adjust the bass response. It might be worth looking into those to see how good their separation is. I would guess pretty good, but also understood the IE80s to have an all-round signature. For games something very precise and analytical might also have an advantage (although a good bass response can add to the experience).
 
Just my thoughts, and again, I am by no means an expert in these things. It is also very personal.
 
Dec 21, 2016 at 12:10 PM Post #8 of 10
I use the ma750 and I have to say that they are pretty exceptional in this department actually. Get a mixamp like PurpleAngel suggested and try them again. You may not even need to upgrade!
But if you do want to, I'm not so sure about the ie80. I tried them and hey have considerably more mid-bass than the ma750. I feel like for games that may not be as good for gaming purposes. Just a heads up.
 
Dec 21, 2016 at 1:28 PM Post #9 of 10
I greatly appreciate all of the help and information you guys have posted. I have come to the verdict that I'll just wait until I get an amp first to use with my RHA MA750s and then hear how it goes. I'm mostly leaning towards the Turtle Beach DSS (Version 1), but I'll also check out the Astro Mixamp. 
 
If I'm not satisfied I'll take a look at upgrading my IEMs. I'll check out the Trinity Vyrus, Sennheiser IE80, and the JVC FX850. Either way I'll post here about my experience for reference and for people who might have the same questions in the future.
 
Dec 21, 2016 at 8:27 PM Post #10 of 10
I have both the FX-850's and the IE80's and they are both great IEM's IMO. The 850's are a bit brighter, offering more detail and "airy" treble. The IE80's have a larger sound stage, and actually one of the largest sound stages out of all IEM's. It really is impressive and think that feature alone would be awesome for gaming. Both have good bass response, but the IE80's are a bit more focused on the mid bass compared to the 850's. The IE80's are easier to get the proper fitment with since the 850's are very large for an IEM, and the IE80's also isolate a bit better. Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with either pair. Personally I prefer the 850's overall as I prefer their sound signature.
 

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