ati832
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does this have more power than the fiio e9 and if it doesnt what does have more power at around £300.thanks
does this have more power than the fiio e9 and if it doesnt what does have more power at around £300.thanks
Surprisingly, the specs of the iCAN are on the ifi Audio website:
http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/micro-ican/
400mW into 32 ohms, 40mW into 600 ohms
Perhaps equally surprisingly, the specs of the E09K are on the fiio website:
http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000017625376&MenuID=105026003
900mW into 32 ohms
From this I would conclude that the iCAN has about half the power of the E09K :rolleyes:
However, you have not told us what headphone you are attempting to drive. What is its impedance and its sensitivity as this can make a big difference?
Some amps can swing the large voltages necessary for high impedance cans but cannot produce the higher current needed by lower impedance cans. For others the opposite can be true.
The sensitivity of the headphone also plays a part and this varies hugely. As you are requiring more power, can we assume you are using an insensitive headphone?
Sennheiser state the HD650 as having a sensitivity of 103dB (I assume per mW). This is higher than my T1 which is 102dB. The iCAN is more than sufficient for the T1 so it should be OK for the HD650 too.
Fiio don't state how much voltage the E09K can output but I'd be surprised if it is not enough given their claims for the device. If the E09K is not enough for the HD650 then either you are deaf or you soon will be.
Sennheiser state the HD650 as having a sensitivity of 103dB (I assume per mW). This is higher than my T1 which is 102dB. The iCAN is more than sufficient for the T1 so it should be OK for the HD650 too.
Fiio don't state how much voltage the E09K can output but I'd be surprised if it is not enough given their claims for the device. If the E09K is not enough for the HD650 then either you are deaf or you soon will be.
Hey, have you maybe tried your T1's with Schiit Asgard 2 by any chance?
I don't really need the 3D and bass boost effects...
As far as specs go it seems Asgard has much more power, almost 5 times as much at 600 ohms.
No.
Clearly you have not yet heard them. When you hear them, you will want them.
So instead of having 2 or 3 times more power then the T1 needs, you could have 10 or 15 times more
No, I seriously don't want any bass boosts, any cross feed circuits or any other coloration, because when I do have the need for that, I use VST plug-ins that allow me far more customization.
As for as the power goes, I don't think 40 mW's is 2-3 times more than T1's need.
First of all, they're not just 600 ohm headphones, their impedance spikes at almost 1400 ohms in the bass to low-mids region. Considering how quickly the power output of the iCan drops off with higher impedance loads, it's safe to say it could not put out more than 5 to 10 mW's of power into a 1400 ohm load.
OK, so you are concerned about coloration and presumably distortion... and you are using DSP
iFi Audio's analogue circuits do far less damage to the music than the pre- and post-ringing introduced by DSP. Then again it depends if your DAC is up to the job as that too may be introducing pre- and post-ringing.
Try learning Ohm's law. That's enough for 118db peaks! Just how quickly do you want to go deaf?
No. Like I said. Learn Ohm's law. It can still muster 17mW which is enough for 114db peaks! Again, how quickly do you want to go deaf?
If you find the T1 a little bass light, and some do, the level one XBASS on the iCAN is the perfect antidote. The T1 doesn't need more power. It just needs a little lift below 40 Hz.
Don't want to be rude, but you don't have to teach me things that I, believe me, know more than enough about. I learned about Ohms law about 13-14 years ago, but I also learned that it's often irrelevant what specs on paper say when what I hear in practice says otherwise. For example...I have the T1's plugged into the MF M1 now. Now, according to calculations that you used as well, that amp should enable peaks of around 120 db's....but...heh...trust me, turning that amp all the way up is far from 120 db...in fact, it's barely what I'd consider loud enough for pleasant listening with some binaural recordings...so...
As far as DSP's go, and I almost never use them, that's why I don't want them on my amp, or don't need them.
I asked for a comparison between Asgard and iCAN, and stated that I don't really NEED it, therefore, the fact that iCAN has it should not be considered as a reason to go for the iCAN instead of the Asgard.
hi guys..anybody here that has a iCAN paired with a HE-560? I checked the power out and its 400mw only..I am not sure if that is sufficient for the HE-560..but would love to know the impressions who owns this setup or have heard it.
The iFi micro iDSD has lots of power but I do not need a dac/amp..I just need a porta amp that I can use at the office..desktop amps are a no go..since they are buly unless it has a very small footprint.
so far Fiio E12, Cayin C5 and the iCAN are the current options I have researched