We shall see. If we go by the DX160, there should be a 4.4 and a 3.5.
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iBasso DX170 You want your Music? It is right here. *** NEW Firmware: 1.06 Apple support and other additions! ***
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HansBarbarossa
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Oh, wow!
A worthy replacement for the already successful DX160! Awesome!
A worthy replacement for the already successful DX160! Awesome!
senorx12562
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Ah...I miss the certainty of youth.The r5 gen 2 and m3x both have dual days as well. Hiby seems to hit above its price point. Them and ifi both. The dx300 was good, but the ifi idsd signature blew it away.
You guys are funny. Its a "pocket friendly" DAP, totally designed for portable use, probably better with IEM's and less power hungry heaphones and the first thing that everyone worries about is power.
Android + 2GB = don't mix well
aravaioli
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That would also be my take, based on what I learned with the Kann Alpha POS, but my DX160 appears very powerful (drives very decently my Arya V2) so probably it will also be the case of this one. I hope it improves the battery life....I should say usually when they don't show power in mw or watts it usually means it's low.
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I used dx160 for two years and I'd like to point out a few things.
When it comes output power, I don't think it's going to disappoint you when you look at what you get from dx160.
2gb ram and 32gb storage again? Well you won't use this device as your classic android smartphone but come on. I'd expect a little higher to give some room.
Some users mentioned that cpu is comparable with SD 425. Well very important thing for you to notice is how energy efficient it is. SD processors are very good at this. Dx160 was suffering from its cpu. Just leave it alone with no use and it drops by 15-20% in one day. Plus the terrible runtime was really annoying.
Some mentioned that it's very portable so the less battery capacity should be ignored. Well, I don't agree with this. If you worry about charging all the time, it's not a good experience in the long term. The battery will get old also during charging recharging cycles. Even if you try to protect the battery by keeping it between 20-80%. That's what I did with dx160. Eventually, I switched to m11 plus ess and it's amazing with how long it can perform either during playtime or standy.
Another thing to mention, I wonder what kind of screen they used. Dx160 was suffering from high brightness. The screen to body ratio was really good and it looks gorgeous but if it can't go darker even limited by the hardware, then it's also another problem.
More or less, I'd expect that it will perform really well if you focus on the audio experience. However, it's a question mark when it comes whole user experience with the device. Would be better slightly higher price and slightly better specs...
When it comes output power, I don't think it's going to disappoint you when you look at what you get from dx160.
2gb ram and 32gb storage again? Well you won't use this device as your classic android smartphone but come on. I'd expect a little higher to give some room.
Some users mentioned that cpu is comparable with SD 425. Well very important thing for you to notice is how energy efficient it is. SD processors are very good at this. Dx160 was suffering from its cpu. Just leave it alone with no use and it drops by 15-20% in one day. Plus the terrible runtime was really annoying.
Some mentioned that it's very portable so the less battery capacity should be ignored. Well, I don't agree with this. If you worry about charging all the time, it's not a good experience in the long term. The battery will get old also during charging recharging cycles. Even if you try to protect the battery by keeping it between 20-80%. That's what I did with dx160. Eventually, I switched to m11 plus ess and it's amazing with how long it can perform either during playtime or standy.
Another thing to mention, I wonder what kind of screen they used. Dx160 was suffering from high brightness. The screen to body ratio was really good and it looks gorgeous but if it can't go darker even limited by the hardware, then it's also another problem.
More or less, I'd expect that it will perform really well if you focus on the audio experience. However, it's a question mark when it comes whole user experience with the device. Would be better slightly higher price and slightly better specs...
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NOOOOOO, this is exactly what I wished but I already spent the money elsewhere from the time I wrote it. Feel bad man :'(Having this nice pocket sized, very capable DAP for over 2 years. Very happy with the sound quality of the DX160. It really makes all my hps and iems sing.
Definitely looking a future offering from Ibasso with similar size but a much better processor, ram to run higher android with way improved responsiveness.
The color looks much better in person for sure. Best shade of blue for me.
Hifigo have it listed for pre-order for $469, along with some addional info. No mention of power specs, but that isn't someting which would bother me. It has 3.5 & 4.4mm outputs.
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Is it true it uses old dac which sounds very neutral and dry
Violectric Chronos has one piece of it and it sounds very musical, engaging and with natural timbre.Is it true it uses old dac which sounds very neutral and dry
e-dub
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I don't think "everyone" has asked what the output power is, but I'm asking what the output is in mW. I know it's given in Volts earlier in the thread, but I don't really have a frame of reference when measuring in Volts, hence the question. I'm still a noob in that sense.You guys are funny. Its a "pocket friendly" DAP, totally designed for portable use, probably better with IEM's and less power hungry heaphones and the first thing that everyone worries about is power.
I couldn't find it anywhere.No mW number?
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Likely around 900mw@32ohms balanced as I can't imagine a current iBasso having a high output impedance.What is that in mw?
The compromises here have to do with size vs battery vs power vs processor efficiency. That's a lot of power for something that size. Likely an efficient amp design and a newer 22nm processor will help with that as well. There has to be compromises in something this size and price but here, they seem well worked out. You'll know once reviews come out and we get battery life and snappiness reports.
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I don't want to curb everyones enthusiasm, but to me it doesn't sound like a big upgrade over the dx160. At least not for my use case. I don't use wifi/bluetooth, always on airplane mode. Always use power on/off and not standby.
If they would add a (very small) blue power led somewhere, now THAT would be a great improvement. Sometimes I forget to turn it off and without any visual clues it just keeps playing on my kitchen table until the already small battery is empty.
Anyway, I am happy to see the dx170 coming out, whatever the naming convention.
- Playtime around 11 hours. That's about the same as the dx160 (originally). Ok it's annoyingly short, but I don't read an improvement here.
- Speed: Startup time dx160 is rather long, so there could possibly be some gains. No complaints however in the user-interface: it is quick and snappy enough.
- Powerspecs are the same
- The price is about the same
- Android11: If you don't use wifi or apps, but just use it as a player, the old android (don't even know what dx160 is using ) is just fine.
- Sound: (THE most important spec): unknown, but I guess very close to dx160?
If they would add a (very small) blue power led somewhere, now THAT would be a great improvement. Sometimes I forget to turn it off and without any visual clues it just keeps playing on my kitchen table until the already small battery is empty.
Anyway, I am happy to see the dx170 coming out, whatever the naming convention.
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