[SoundGoon]

Sometimes I think that the certain music sounds more realistic with the "Loudness" button in the on position. Is this wrong?

 

[coemaudio]

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Originally Posted by SoundGoon /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sometimes I think that the certain music sounds more realistic with the "Loudness" button in the on position. Is this wrong?

I don't think what you're doing is wrong

If you like how it sounds then that's all that matters!

 

[bigshot]

The purpose of the loudness button is to boost the bass a bit to compensate for when you are listening at a lower volume level. If you find you are using it a lot at normal listening volumes, you might want to use your tone controls or equalizer to boost the bass.

See ya
Steve

 

[intlplby]

the loudness button compresses the music.... you get less dynamic range

it's good for loud environments

 

[jp11801]

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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif The purpose of the loudness button is to boost the bass a bit to compensate for when you are listening at a lower volume level. If you find you are using it a lot at normal listening volumes, you might want to use your tone controls or equalizer to boost the bass. See ya Steve

step away from the eq slowly please and disengage the loudness button unless you are kistening at lower tahtn normal levels

the loudness button is there to compensate for percieived dips in the low and high frequecy range at low listening levels, I am a few beer in tonight but I beleive the phenominom is called the fletcher/munson curve

 

[GreatDane]

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Originally Posted by jp11801 /img/forum/go_quote.gif step away from the eq slowly please and disengage the loudness button unless you are kistening at lower tahtn normal levels the loudness button is there to compensate for percieived dips in the low and high frequecy range at low listening levels, I am a few beer in tonight but I beleive the phenominom is called the fletcher/munson curve

You are correct...dirnk a few bers foe me

 

[Duggeh]

If you like the sound then by all thats holy, use it. Dont ever do something or not do something because its not a straight wire with gain, or its a contamination of the sound.

What is important is what satisfies your ears and your mind. Purity of signal and the quality of recording are secondary to euphony of the music.

 

[Herandu]

Sansui (remember them?) brought out an amp with a variable loudness control once. I found it one of the better ideas ever tried, since it was far more useful to be able to adjust the loudness compensation to taste.

 

[swt61]

Duggeh is wise beyond his years. It truely is about enjoying your music whatever way you like it.

 

[Zenja]

Our ears apply a reverse-loudness that gets stronger as the volume goes down. This always happens and is very noticable at lower volumes. The loudness button just cancels out this change in frequency response to try to make it flat again. There's nothing wrong with that at all. It's not a dynamics compressor, it's just an equalizer.

 

[coemaudio]

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Originally Posted by Duggeh /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you like the sound then by all thats holy, use it. Dont ever do something or not do something because its not a straight wire with gain, or its a contamination of the sound. What is important is what satisfies your ears and your mind. Purity of signal and the quality of recording are secondary to euphony of the music.

I agree 100%

If your ears are enjoying it, then nothing else matters.

 

[GreatDane]

So no, the loudness button isn't wrong. This is my $200 loudness button:

 

[musicexpression]

would think that loudness controls apply more to speakers rather than cans.

the human auditory response is closely mimiced by the fletcher/munson curve where the perceived level @ the entire audio range is not flat at certain SPL output.

at normal listening levels using the speaker, loudness control may not be required, unless you are playing your system in midnight where you've got vindictive neighbors that pound on yr door ;p

however for cans, i would think it is not necessary to turn on any loudness feature.

 

[lini]

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Originally Posted by Herandu /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sansui (remember them?) brought out an amp with a variable loudness control once. (...)

Sansui (yes, fondly remembered) weren't the only ones - you'll also find something similar on various old Braun receivers, for example. Most important, I'd like to mention Yamaha, though - 'cause afaik they have the most unbroken tradition to do that and still feature variable loudness today, even on their most recent integrated amps (AX-397/497) and stereo receivers (RX-397/497/797).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

 

[SoundGoon]

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Originally Posted by lini /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sansui (yes, fondly remembered) weren't the only ones - you'll also find something similar on various old Braun receivers, for example. Most important, I'd like to mention Yamaha, though - 'cause afaik they have the most unbroken tradition to do that and still feature variable loudness today, even on their most recent integrated amps (AX-397/497) and stereo receivers (RX-397/497/797). Greetings from Munich! Manfred / lini

That's interesting to know about Sansui and Yamaha. I also enjoy Sansui's older stuff; whatever happened to them (as I diverge from my own post

)?