I have a turntable, powered speakers, headphones, uDAC and need upgrade advice
Jul 28, 2012 at 12:15 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 4

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I need a new piece of equipment to tie my setup together and possibly upgrade my digital source. My budget is $500 max but preferably less.
 
My current equipment:
 
Pro-Ject RM 1.3 turntable
Pro-Ject Phono Box S phono stage
Nuforce uDAC-2 
Swan M200 MKIII powered speakers
Alessandro MS2 headphones
 
The uDAC, speakers, and headphones predate the turntable setup. The turntable has introduced two wrinkles:
 
(1) The Swan speakers have only one RCA input and the uDAC obviously has none, so I am forced to swap cables around when I switch between sources. Clearly I need something with preamp capabilities.
(2) The turntable + phono stage BLOWS AWAY the uDAC in terms of sound quality. I am skeptical of the pseudoscientific arguments that vinyl is inherently superior digital audio and so it seems to me that the solution is probably to step up to a higher quality DAC.
 
So what I think I'm looking for is a unit (or combination of units) that combines a DAC, preamp capabilities (most important being analog input, which would seem to rule out the cheaper Audio-GD options), and a headphone output. Digital sound quality and preamp function are MUCH more important to me than the quality of the headphone amp at this point since I have no plans to upgrade the Alessandros and they seem to do fine with the relatively meager uDAC amplification. I do, on the other hand, plan to replace the Swans with a traditional power amp and speaker setup (scale and budget TBD, though the speakers will likely be Swans) at some point in the next year or two and would like whatever I buy now to continue to be the preamp for that rig.
 
So far I have identified the Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-11 and Nuforce HDP as meeting my needs. Which would sound better given my other equipment? What other options am I missing? Are there two units I should combine that would still fall within my $500 budget? Is a <$500 solution here going to be a huge bottleneck if I end up spending a couple grand on a power amp and speakers? 
 
If it's relevant, I predominantly listen to rock, classical, opera, and to a lesser extent ambient.
 
Jul 28, 2012 at 5:42 PM Post #2 of 4
Jul 28, 2012 at 6:00 PM Post #3 of 4
Quote:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may06/articles/artphonoplus.htm
 
Presonus, Rega, Alesis, NI & M-Audio make similar devices that I know of. There will be others.
 
Don't waste cash on converters and pre-amps. save your money for a decent set of speakers/headphones.

This does not look like it would offer me an upgrade from the uDAC-2 in terms of DAC quality or amplification (well maybe with amplification because it wouldn't take much to improve upon the godawful uDAC channel imbalance). It does have the connectivity I need, but it seems to be geared more toward providing a phono preamp and a way to record vinyl to a PC, which I don't have any interest in.
 
Jul 28, 2012 at 9:39 PM Post #4 of 4
How about this then.
 
http://uk.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-2i2/specifications
 
Plug the TT into the line inputs - avoid doing any AD/DA if you want by using the direct monitoring switch.
 
Listen to digital from your PC via USB.
 
You will need an balanced 1/4" > unbalanced phono lead to feed the SWANs until you upgrade but they are easy to find and inexpensive.
 

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