Hook up any DAC straight to your computer via USB sans soundcard?
Aug 19, 2004 at 1:25 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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Here's a pretty expensive option but has some great flexibility features:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/v...er=asc&start=0

You could hook your dac up to your laptop no problem. A good soundcard like an RME or lynx would cost you way more than this mod. Of course, it could be said that a chaintech would be a whole lot cheaper but you still have jitter to contend with. The only thing in this whole thing that's not making too much sense to me is the length of the usb cable. IIRC, the max length for USB is pretty short, depending on the application, somewhere in the 6-10 feet range. Sorry, I haven't worked with usb specs in a few years and I'm too lazy to look it up
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Aug 19, 2004 at 1:53 AM Post #3 of 13
Nah, if anything, I'll let the boys over at the circles take the hit.
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I need a dac first and that won't be for at least a year
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Aug 19, 2004 at 9:27 PM Post #7 of 13
Not quite. I direct-couple the USB interface CODEC to the receiver chip, which eliminates one or both S/PDIF interfaces and the S/PDIF cable. If you read my article in Positive-feedback, you will understand why you need at least a 1.5m S/PDIF cable in order to have low jitter in ANY stock S/PDIF interface:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
 
Aug 19, 2004 at 10:48 PM Post #8 of 13
From the AudioCircle posting:
> 3) The added electronics is powered from the PC, so no power-draw or new power-supplies are necessary in the DAC.

Does this mean you're powering it off the USB bus? Is there a danger that this won't be a very clean power source?

Jonathan.
 
Aug 20, 2004 at 12:53 AM Post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Griffin
From the AudioCircle posting:
> 3) The added electronics is powered from the PC, so no power-draw or new power-supplies are necessary in the DAC.

Does this mean you're powering it off the USB bus? Is there a danger that this won't be a very clean power source?

Jonathan.



Yes, some of the logic is powered off the USB bus. My customers have not had any issues yet. I typically transformer-couple at some point in the design so that there is ground isolation.
 
Aug 20, 2004 at 4:38 AM Post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by audioengr
Not quite. I direct-couple the USB interface CODEC to the receiver chip, which eliminates one or both S/PDIF interfaces and the S/PDIF cable.


Yeah, I was assuming you remove the optical or coax connection, but if you're just coupling the interface directly to the S/PDIF receiver, you're not eliminating S/PDIF, regardless of what you claim.
 
Aug 22, 2004 at 1:26 AM Post #11 of 13
As I correctly stated:
"I direct-couple the USB interface CODEC to the receiver chip, which eliminates one or both S/PDIF interfaces and the S/PDIF cable."

I never said I eliminated the S/PDIF protocol, just the interfaces.
 
Sep 22, 2004 at 6:18 AM Post #13 of 13
What is the approx. parts cost for the modification?
 

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