[musmecca]

ED30761 is a woofer
ED29689 is a er4 driver which excel being a neutral driver
They are completely different drivers

And three dampers is not for having more or less bass but for having a control otherwise you will have bad bleed

Got it! Replacement parts came in today so doing the build this afternoon. So, possibly playing with the red and orange dampers/position or possibly the diameter (going to a 1m tube) can add more bass from the 30761 if needed? BTW, I searched and never found a FR graph of this build....did you have one for reference?

 

[dhruvmeena96]

Got it! Replacement parts came in today so doing the build this afternoon. So, possibly playing with the red and orange dampers/position or possibly the diameter (going to a 1m tube) can add more bass from the 30761 if needed? BTW, I searched and never found a FR graph of this build....did you have one for reference?

it was technically a noble savant refresh
ED30761 and ED29689
in final 2
using FED30048 makes us avoid green damper and let the whole sound come out unfiltered letting us(whoever made this, are in my team) have smooth peakless extension while also the uppermid pinna being damped

adding a dual damped CI just adds to subbass

making it basshead iem made by BA

dont have the FR nor the drivers now..... so you have to wait till i get a coupler(711) or somebody measures it to you

the design is based on Wizard Orignal savant so its kinda fool proof

 

[shdh]

Isn't the Bellsing 6 (10013) just a DTEC with two TWFK clones?

 

[Bassiklee]

Essentially, yes

 

[Bassiklee]

Here. Hope this helps

 

[shdh]

Thanks @Bassiklee
I suppose what I'm curious about is what makes the Bellsing 6 so special? Could I just source any DTEC and 2 TWFK's and tune them together to accomplish the same result?

so you have to wait till i get a coupler(711)

If you don't have a coupler, how have you been measuring your builds to this point?

 

[dhruvmeena96]

Thanks @Bassiklee
I suppose what I'm curious about is what makes the Bellsing 6 so special? Could I just any DTEC and 2 TWFK's and tune them together to accomplish the same result?


If you don't have a coupler, how have you been measuring your builds to this point?

I had a coupler
Had to sell out due to some circumstances

That was 2018
I am going to buy a cheap taobao one this time

 

[Bassiklee]

Thanks @Bassiklee
I suppose what I'm curious about is what makes the Bellsing 6 so special? Could I just any DTEC and 2 TWFK's and tune them together to accomplish the same result?


I suppose one thing that made it "so special"(your words, not mine) is that it's pre-configured as a 6 driver package, with the crossover figured out. Do keep in mind that without the zobel, it has some issues. As far as any DTEC and two TWFK, yes. In theory, that could be accomplished. Do you have the chops to do it? I can't answer that question.

 

[shdh]

I suppose one thing that made it "so special"(your words, not mine) is that it's pre-configured as a 6 driver package, with the crossover figured out. Do keep in mind that without the zobel, it has some issues. As far as any DTEC and two TWFK, yes. In theory, that could be accomplished. Do you have the chops to do it? I can't answer that question.

Based on the posts I read, some people refer to certain builds with BS6 as close to "endgame" - guess I'll have to try to figure that out for myself.

I had a coupler

Yeah that is tough, attempting to engineer designs without being able to accurately measure them.

I am going to buy a cheap taobao one this time

Could you link to ones you think are adequate from Taobao?

 

[musmecca]

Here. Hope this helps

Very useful....thanks! Did anyone ever figure out the cap/resistor values in the crossover network?

 

[Bassiklee]

Unless you are using the same TWFK variant that they used two of, the cap values wouldn't necessarily be the same. If I were going to design a monitor using two TWFK, I would look for cap values with the ones I was planning to use, and start there.

 

[528068]

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...724857.videoBannerStyleB_top.3.39606c264PMUl1 IEM planar drivers. Would really like to see somebody review them. It'd be even more interesting to see someone compare the IEM drivers against the k99/k100 500ohm drivers from Aliexpress which are also found on Alibaba iirc but also definitely on TaoBao. The planar IEM driver might even be able to fit into a 40mm headphone casing because the driver has a diameter of 40mm.

Specs:

 

[Farquarl]

https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...724857.videoBannerStyleB_top.3.39606c264PMUl1 IEM planar drivers. Would really like to see somebody review them. It'd be even more interesting to see someone compare the IEM drivers against the k99/k100 500ohm drivers from Aliexpress which are also found on Alibaba iirc but also definitely on TaoBao. The planar IEM driver might even be able to fit into a 40mm headphone casing because the driver has a diameter of 40mm.

Specs:

That thing seems totaly useless for IEM use. 40mm? how big should this "In Ear" get? also by the look at the frequency response curve it doesn´t fit the usually prefered curve which accounts for the open ear gain as well. That being said i don´t think planar technology offers any real advantage compared to balanced armature(debatable).

 

[Bassiklee]

Agreed. Someone doesn't grasp the concept of IN EAR.

 

[stephensynanta16]

I just heard from soundlink that they will no longer sell bellsing. Where else could we get the 10013? Or is it time for an improved bs6z alternative?

here's DIY BZ6:
HODVTEC, tape all vent on one side, or get DTEC and use it as is
2x twfk:
both FK wired parallel, hi pass 4.7uF, (edit: my bad, it should be 20uF)
both WBFK wired parallel, hi pass 1uF

sonion 38 is not really recommended, since its too overpowered. even hodvtec is overpowered already, hence why we need to tape half of both vent. On BZ6, mid is done mostly by the DTEC. parallel FK on its own is not really reliable to do mid on BZ6, it will have shouty transition from mid-to-uppermid(more than 10db climb from 800hz to 2k)..