Home-Made IEMs
Jan 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM Post #3,076 of 16,074
Wool is a good material to ball up and put into the tubes. I also had a lot of luck using various foam I saved from getting packages in the mail.



Here some testing I did with various materials. It shows how the FR behaved with various types i had on hand.



The red line is the Reference (no-filter) so you can see some of the foams were very good, in my opinion, at shaping the higher frequencies.


Thanks very much this is excellent! 
 
Jan 18, 2015 at 2:20 PM Post #3,078 of 16,074
The internal volume of the IEC711 coupler is 1.26cm3.
The gigantic internal volume of your coupler dont really mach the residual volume of a ear canal IMHO.


I absolutely agree. I'd be interested in testing out how reducing the volume impacts the FR. I'll brainstorm and figure out how to modify my test rig to post some comparisons.

Regardless, I think "something" is better than nothing in terms of getting some objective analysis of IEMs.
 
Jan 18, 2015 at 2:47 PM Post #3,079 of 16,074
I absolutely agree. I'd be interested in testing out how reducing the volume impacts the FR. I'll brainstorm and figure out how to modify my test rig to post some comparisons.

Regardless, I think "something" is better than nothing in terms of getting some objective analysis of IEMs.


This mic is factory calibrated and less than 50$
 
http://www.daytonaudio.com/index.php/emm-6-electret-measurement-microphone.html
 
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-emm-6-electret-measurement-microphone--390-801
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 4:07 PM Post #3,080 of 16,074
I've now listened to the GQ-30783 + RAB-32257 for about a week and have to say, it sounds really REALLY nice.  
 
I had initially convinced myself that a DIY 3-driver IEM would probably have the sound quality of a pair of $20 - $30 ear buds but without the bass filling out the sound.  After experimenting with a 6-driver config for the better part of 2 months, my pride/ego convinced me that a DIY 3-driver would be good enough for my teenagers, but not for me.  
 
I will humbly report that I couldn't have be more wrong.  Holy cow -- was I wrong!
 
During the research and development, I was worried about a lack of bass I was hearing with just using the GQ, which is why I paired it with the RAB-32257.   I've been living with UE Metro.fi 200 (pre Logitech merger) for many years so not hearing that deep dark bass in the IEMs gave me pause.  I thought RAB-32257 had the strongest sub-bass response when compared with the other RAB configurations, but now that I've double-checked, it looks like the RAB-32033 would have been a better choice if bass was my concern.  Anyway, at $12/driver for the RAB, it made economic sense to pair this with the $37/driver GQ.   The result?  The bass -- it's totally there, and right at a level that gives some nice warmth to the music but not overly so.  This is probably the result of some excellent isolation I'm getting from properly fitting shells and of course, correctly sealing the acoustic tubing at the nozzle.  Funny story about the isolation of IEMs:  As I was writing this, wearing my IEMs, I got a tap on my shoulder from my youngest.  I was startled and pulled out one to say "Hi".  He smiled in amazement and said "Could you hear me at all?"  I smiled back and told him I couldn't hear anything except the music.  He said he'd been standing behind me for a minute or two calling for me louder and louder each time.   My FiiO X1 volume is currently at 35 and apparently I'm oblivious to the world around me at this level.   
 
The details I'm now hearing are pretty magical as well.  The best way I can describe it is like this:  A long long time ago, when I got my first home theater surround sound system setup, I put in a DVD I was pretty familiar with "Saving Private Ryan".  While the sound was now amazing, there were parts of the movie where machine gun fire was occurring.  Without surround sound, you could hear the tinkling of the shells as they hit the ground, but with the surround sound playing, you could actually count the shells as they hit the ground. Listening to these IEMs reminds me of that day.  I feel like I know how many beans or bb's are in the percussion shakers and they rattle in the background of some songs.  I can hear the zipper-like sound of calloused fingers moving down the strings of the fret board in various acoustic songs that I couldn't hear before.   If there's one complaint, it's that when a low quality mp3 now queues up, it sounds muddy and makes me question if it's the mp3 or the IEMs.  I'll have to do a search on my mp3 library and replace those lower bit rate recordings.
 
Overall, the sound of this config is pretty damn fine to my ears.
 
For anyone who already has a GQ on-hand and looking to do some experimenting by adding the RAB,  the configuration I'm using is:
 
GQ-30783   - 2.0mm x 19.5mm tubing with a Knowles Green filter (1500ohm) + additional acoustic material to refine the 2kHz - 3kHz frequency response and further mellow out semblance if you hear any.
RAB-32257 - 2.0mm x 15.5mm tubing with lightweight acoustic material to refine the 2kHz - 3kHz FR.
 
The good news, is that for those who like more treble, the nondescript extra acoustic material can be omitted.  And, this config requires no crossover, other than the one that's already build into the GQ, of course.
 
 
Cheers
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 8:38 PM Post #3,081 of 16,074
I bet it sounds great Furco. I like GQ it is a useful combination that can be used in a variety of builds. RAB is a driver that also begs for more experimentation. I used RAB-32063 as a tweeter in my last build and couldn't be happier with the results, it isn't as airy sounding as WBFK but it also isn't harsh, just nice natural highs. Given that you are using green filters + an additional filter on GQ, and a light filter on RAB, I bet that a lot of your high end detail is coming from the RAB driver.
 
I have another pair of RAB-32063 on hand that I was thinking of making a single driver stealth build with, making the entire shell fit inside the ear canal. Taking that idea even further, I would love to make a bluetooth version with no wire running between  the shells but I can't figure out how to get 2 bluetooth devices to work together in stereo. :frowning2:
 
Jan 20, 2015 at 9:11 PM Post #3,082 of 16,074
looks like someone beet me to the punch, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ownphones/ownphones-the-worlds-first-custom-fit-3d-printed-e
 
Now if only I can get ahold of those bluetooth controller boards.
 
Jan 26, 2015 at 8:37 PM Post #3,083 of 16,074
I've been wanting to make a silicone custom IEM for some time. I finally got around to it after some experimentation. I chose some two part food grade silicone from Smooth On. I plan to use them just a few minutes at a time until I verify I get no allergic reaction.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 3:26 AM Post #3,084 of 16,074
I've been wanting to make a silicone custom IEM for some time. I finally got around to it after some experimentation. I chose some two part food grade silicone from Smooth On. I plan to use them just a few minutes at a time until I verify I get no allergic reaction.


Nice to get rid of air bubbles degass the silicone first. If you don't have a degasser you can make one for REALLY cheap from an old air conditioner pump or freezer or refrigerator pump. You can find easy instructions on you tube or just google it. How do they sound.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 5:42 AM Post #3,085 of 16,074
 I chose some two part food grade silicone from Smooth On. I plan to use them just a few minutes at a time until I verify I get no allergic reaction.
 

 
 
Have you experienced allergic reaction to silicone in the past?
 
I experienced some irritation with a commercially-made silicone CIEM, which, over a couple of days, made them too uncomfortable to wear (ear canal was slightly inflamed and getting increasingly sore). I do absolutely fine with acrylic.
 
In my case, I was experiencing other toxicity issues which I suspect was making my immune system more sensitive to the silicone.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 7:28 PM Post #3,088 of 16,074
Nice to get rid of air bubbles degass the silicone first. If you don't have a degasser you can make one for REALLY cheap from an old air conditioner pump or freezer or refrigerator pump. You can find easy instructions on you tube or just google it. How do they sound.

Thanks for the tip. I think I'll rip these apart and try making them again. Overall sound is similar to acrylic. Haven't been able to tell much difference, but I fing the isolation and fit much more comfortable.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM Post #3,090 of 16,074
I've been using the guts from an apple ADDIEM.  This is some kind of modified knowles GQ driver and looks like a WBFK/ED combo.  This unit is great for silicone as I get a two way design with a single tube.  In my acrylic shells I have more space and can do a more traditional design with separate drivers.  
 

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