I mostly used them between my pre and power amp. looking back, they were probably my 2nd favourite interconnects (favourite being the jps superconductor 4, but these only seem to want to be paired with my wa33).
High End Cables Thread (digital, analog, power)
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I mostly used them between my pre and power amp. looking back, they were probably my 2nd favourite interconnects (favourite being the jps superconductor 4, but these only seem to want to be paired with my wa33).
I am already thinking that I want to get a set of the Spirit II xlr next.
the spirit II xlr are very clean sounding and neutral. the connectors he uses for those cables are the best ive tried. slides in and out smoothly, satisfying click, hefty and very solid feeling. makes Neutrik connectors seem like a toy.
alvin sawdust
1000+ Head-Fier
It's a superb usb cable. Managed to get mine on the used market but even if buying new it's insanely good value.
I received a lovely package not long ago. It took just under 3 days to travel from UK to Singapore (truly impressive..!). I wanted to get a nice cable to hook up the Melco S100/2 switch to my incoming Wavedream NET.
ended up wanting to give the Muon Pro filter system a go. PMed @teknorob23 and as usual it was a pleasure chatting with Rob, who has a lovely habit of going off tangent (as he says so himself) but somehow it makes it all the more enjoyable conversing with him.
The gear came well packaged. the filter system came in a nice suede pouch. the Muon Pro cable itself is a piece of work; looks super thick, though most it is from the outer sheath, and the innards are 3 separate runs of cabling in a white shielding layer (see pic below). the cable comes in a standard 1.5m length and is soft and flexible enough to route easily. the sufficient length also allows for easy contortion to connect to upside down ethernet ports.
The filter system is quite sizeable. larger than their Eno filter. it's pretty light and has no loose parts or rattling. there is a short length of fixed umbilical ethernet cabling and it comes with 4 sticker footers u can attach yourself.
they went all out on the plugs. looks like engraved/laser etched branding on one end, and a directional indicator on the other (u can make out Pro> on one plug, so I assume that is the end to go into the network transport/streamer).
My new transport hasn't arrived yet, so in the meantime have placed this in my lounge system, in between an Uptone ER and sotm streamer. it took the place of a 1m length of Pink Faun ethernet. Rob recommends at least 100hrs of use before it hits it's sweet spot; I enjoyed the Muon Pro filter system right out of the box.
As I reported back to Rob, having it in the chain, feels like it has somehow "cleaned up" the whole FR. seems like the noise floor has dropped and there is better separation better staging, and it got rid of some glare too. the sense of realism and 3d staging seems even more pronounced. there is some added depth, meatiness and lushness to female vocals, and takes away a hint of "dryness" and edginess/sharpness to singers like Stacey Kent.
Some usage notes:
- in contrast to their Eno system, with the Muon Pro, the filter section comes first, before the Muon ethernet cable which plugs in last to the streamer/dac.
- I preferred it together with the Uptone ER than without the ER (direct from router to streamer)
- despite it allowing for 1gbps bandwidth, I preferred it from across the ER moat ie out of the 100mbps "clean" port. Seemed a bit flat and subdued when using it out of the "dirty" side.
- Rob suggested I try it without any fiber connection in the chain, and I did, but preferred it with.
I enjoy using the album above for comparisons and critical listening; I think it has the right amount of dynamic range, is able to demonstrate staging/placement, and is recorded well. her voice is wonderful too, and overall her songs are enjoyable to listen to.
As flawed as sighted comparisons are, and taking into account the usual biases at play.. take my impressions with a (often huge) pinch of salt. I'd recommend you try it for yourselves and see/hear if u can perceive a difference. I didn't worry much about buying it and not liking it or not perceiving any difference with the filter system, mainly because of their 30 day try at home policy. I think this is a really nice fall back to have. I made use of this the last time I tried their Eno filter system; returned it to Rob/NA after a couple of weeks and no questions asked + immediate hassle free refund.
at the time, I felt the Eno filter didn't bring anything new to the table for my system, so ended up sending it back. the price for the Muon Pro system is rather spectacular especially for "just" a length of cabling + a passive box.. but I do feel differently about the Muon Pro system and am going to be keeping it. am thinking of trying out their AES/EBU cable and seeing how it fares against my Bibacord mk2. am contemplating their Muon USB cable too but am trying hard to convince myself that I'm perfectly happy with my TWL Passion usb cables (which are, again really really bang for buck).
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David222
Headphoneus Supremus
I received a lovely package not long ago. It took just under 3 days to travel from UK to Singapore (truly impressive..!). I wanted to get a nice cable to hook up the Melco S100/2 switch to my incoming Wavedream NET.
ended up wanting to give the Muon Pro filter system a go. PMed @teknorob23 and as usual it was a pleasure chatting with Rob, who has a lovely habit of going off tangent (as he says so himself) but somehow it makes it all the more enjoyable conversing with him.
The gear came well packaged. the filter system came in a nice suede pouch. the Muon Pro cable itself is a piece of work; looks super thick, though most it is from the outer sheath, and the innards are 3 separate runs of cabling in a white shielding layer (see pic below). the cable comes in a standard 1.5m length and is soft and flexible enough to route easily. the sufficient length also allows for easy contortion to connect to upside down ethernet ports.
The filter system is quite sizeable. larger than their Eno filter. it's pretty light and has no loose parts or rattling. there is a short length of fixed umbilical ethernet cabling and it comes with 4 sticker footers u can attach yourself.
they went all out on the plugs. looks like engraved/laser etched branding on one end, and a directional indicator on the other (u can make out Pro> on one plug, so I assume that is the end to go into the network transport/streamer).
My new transport hasn't arrived yet, so in the meantime have placed this in my lounge system, in between an Uptone ER and sotm streamer. it took the place of a 1m length of Pink Faun ethernet. Rob recommends at least 100hrs of use before it hits it's sweet spot; I enjoyed the Muon Pro filter system right out of the box.
As I reported back to Rob, having it in the chain, feels like it has somehow "cleaned up" the whole FR. seems like the noise floor has dropped and there is better separation better staging, and it got rid of some glare too. the sense of realism and 3d staging seems even more pronounced. there is some added depth, meatiness and lushness to female vocals, and takes away a hint of "dryness" and edginess/sharpness to singers like Stacey Kent.
Some usage notes:
- in contrast to their Eno system, with the Muon Pro, the filter section comes first, before the Muon ethernet cable which plugs in last to the streamer/dac.
- I preferred it together with the Uptone ER than without the ER (direct from router to streamer)
- despite it allowing for 1gbps bandwidth, I preferred it from across the ER moat ie out of the 100mbps "clean" port. Seemed a bit flat and subdued when using it out of the "dirty" side.
- Rob suggested I try it without any fiber connection in the chain, and I did, but preferred it with.
I enjoy using the album above for comparisons and critical listening; I think it has the right amount of dynamic range, is able to demonstrate staging/placement, and is recorded well. her voice is wonderful too, and overall her songs are enjoyable to listen to.
As flawed as sighted comparisons are, and taking into account the usual biases at play.. take my impressions with a (often huge) pinch of salt. I'd recommend you try it for yourselves and see/hear if u can perceive a difference. I didn't worry much about buying it and not liking it or not perceiving any difference with the filter system, mainly because of their 30 day try at home policy. I think this is a really nice fall back to have. I made use of this the last time I tried their Eno filter system; returned it to Rob/NA after a couple of weeks and no questions asked + immediate hassle free refund.
at the time, I felt the Eno filter didn't bring anything new to the table for my system, so ended up sending it back. the price for the Muon Pro system is rather spectacular especially for "just" a length of cabling + a passive box.. but I do feel differently about the Muon Pro system and am going to be keeping it. am thinking of trying out their AES/EBU cable and seeing how it fares against my Bibacord mk2. am contemplating their Muon USB cable too but am trying hard to convince myself that I'm perfectly happy with my TWL Passion usb cables (which are, again really really bang for buck).
Thanks for this info @Roasty - great write up. Curious --> what transport are you moving to?
David222
Headphoneus Supremus
Fantastic. The WD Net will be a great addition.
Question --> Have you experimented with the Paul Pang network switch? http://ppaproduct.blogspot.com/2015/07/audio-grade-switcher.html
ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
Well that sounds interesting.
Still have the Wavelight Server incoming
Well @Roasty is to blame for my new love of Cardas.
Having added the Cardas clear reflection RCA cable in between the Weiss DAC and the Studio Six tube amp recently, I can say that it's been perfect! Even in the frequency spectrum with a bit of added weight.
I had been using the Shunyata Venom NR into the Weiss DAC and a old Audioquest NRG-Y3 into the Studio Six. I told myself that I wanted to stick with Shunyata when it was time to upgrade the old Audioquest power cord.
Well I'm breaking the rules. Waiting on a Cardas clear power cable for the Studio Six. The truth is I may play with it in the DAC position too. We'll see. But at the moment I'm loving Cardas!
More to share when it arrives and has settled in a bit.
Having added the Cardas clear reflection RCA cable in between the Weiss DAC and the Studio Six tube amp recently, I can say that it's been perfect! Even in the frequency spectrum with a bit of added weight.
I had been using the Shunyata Venom NR into the Weiss DAC and a old Audioquest NRG-Y3 into the Studio Six. I told myself that I wanted to stick with Shunyata when it was time to upgrade the old Audioquest power cord.
Well I'm breaking the rules. Waiting on a Cardas clear power cable for the Studio Six. The truth is I may play with it in the DAC position too. We'll see. But at the moment I'm loving Cardas!
More to share when it arrives and has settled in a bit.
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LOL! guilty as charged..
Clear Reflection is a lovely lineup. I'm gg to get a set of xlr soon. the exchange rate hasn't been too favourable tho.. oh well.
I'm using the Clear Reflection pc with my power amp and I think it's a v good pairing. have the Clear pc on my preamp, and out of all my better cords, I still go back to the Clear for the Primaluna.
I eventually sold my Shunyata power cords as I thought they were a bit cold and clinical, and have read the lower range Shunyatas have that effect.
P+D-MI
100+ Head-Fier
@RobertSM I had a Shunyata Delta v1 on my Stratus and ended changing it out to a Cardas Clear Beyond and that's the way it shall remain. I'm an old fan of Shunyata but the Cardas in that spot is Amazing!
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Does anyone have experience with Gigawatt power cords?
OK
Cardas clear power cable has arrived and is installed.
Rarely do I hear an instant improvement but I have with this.
Way way dynamic. Very even with nothing out of place. I know that this is a power cable and not a signal cable but this is really something special.
Granted it's replacing a very lower end Audioquest NRG-Y3 cable. But this sort of nuts!
Let's see of things improve more with some time. But to be honest I'm super super happy!
I'm wondering if I now need to get one for the DAC. It's that good IMO.
Cardas clear power cable has arrived and is installed.
Rarely do I hear an instant improvement but I have with this.
Way way dynamic. Very even with nothing out of place. I know that this is a power cable and not a signal cable but this is really something special.
Granted it's replacing a very lower end Audioquest NRG-Y3 cable. But this sort of nuts!
Let's see of things improve more with some time. But to be honest I'm super super happy!
I'm wondering if I now need to get one for the DAC. It's that good IMO.
enjoy! I emailed Cardas for recommendations for my gear. here is their reply:
"For the pre-amp, you could go either way. Clear has better ground filtration, which is good for eliminating noise, which improves dynamics. It might be interesting to go with the Clear power cable, and experiment with putting it on the pre-amp, and also trying it on the power amp, with the Reflection power cable on the pre-amp. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the better arrangement was the Reflection power cable on the amp, where it is now, and the Clear power cable on the pre-amp.
For the DAC, I’d either go with Clear Cygnus Power, or Clear Power. DACs have a tendency to introduce noise into your system, and both Cygnus & Clear have really good noise filtration. Since DACs don’t tend to pull a lot of current, you don’t need a heavy duty power cable like Clear. It certainly wouldn’t hurt, but you’d be safe going with Cygnus power. I think the ground filtration is more important than current capacity with a DAC ".
" Cygnus is a great power cable for a DAC. It has more than enough current carrying capacity for any DAC (and even most amps), and it has a very effective ground-noise filter, to help prevent the DAC from introducing digital noise into the rest of the system."
personally, I really like how they didn't try to upsell stuff.
*realized I posted an excerpt of their reply a few pages back. anyhow, the above is the rest of it.
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