[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif While I am trying to argue certain parameters could effect the sound, I am keeping on getting rebuttals asking how they effect the sound, which was not my point.

On the same lines I could say that eating Keebler cookies could make the sound better. Don't you think I should have a reasonable explanation for such a statement?

 

[chesebert]

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Originally Posted by naamanf /img/forum/go_quote.gif On the same lines I could say that eating Keebler cookies could make the sound better. Don't you think I should have a reasonable explanation for such a statement?

no because Keebler cookies does not materially effect the cable.

 

[naamanf]

Yep. But you haven't been able to correlate how those effects might effect the output of the voltage on a power supply. Let alone how the generally know effects of L and C might effect a poorly made cable mated to a well made power supply.

I on the other hand I can explain why Keebler cookies make everything sound better.

 

[Stax-i-nox]

http://www.aloaudio.com/myrig/myrig.html

Seems like the wires DO make a difference in his setup?

 

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think I can rest my case based on the above statement. no further debates are warranted.

Exactly, he has no experience whatsoever. End of thread!

 

[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by CRESCENDOPOWER /img/forum/go_quote.gif Exactly, he has no experience whatsoever. End of thread!

How do you figure? I have listened to different cables in much higher end (home) gear than my own and didn't hear any difference. Or do I have hear or think I hear a difference to be considered experienced?

But I do have very high end gear in my car. And a can assure you that power cabling doesn't effect the sound in an environment where current demand is higher and a lot noisier.

 

[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by Stax-i-nox /img/forum/go_quote.gif http://www.aloaudio.com/myrig/myrig.html Seems like the wires DO make a difference in his setup?

Of course they do. He sells them.

 

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

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Originally Posted by naamanf /img/forum/go_quote.gif How do you figure? I have listened to different cables in much higher end (home) gear than my own and didn't hear any difference. Or do I have hear or think I hear a difference to be considered experienced?

LOL, you're not even using a system that you are familiar with.

 

[chesebert]

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Originally Posted by naamanf /img/forum/go_quote.gif But I do have very high end gear in my car. And a can assure you that power cabling doesn't effect the sound in an environment where current demand is higher and a lot noisier.

you equate high-end with car audio. what can I say? I am sorry I wasted both my time and your time.

 

[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif you equate high-end with car audio. what can I say? I am sorry I wasted both my time and your time.

I don't equate car audio as high end. I equate high end as high end.
Just shows your ignorance to the world of audio if you think the only reference listening environment is your living room.

I am sorry I only have $10,000 system in house and a $30,000 in my car. I spend more time in my car so it makes sense.

And way to ignore everything about what might make those power cables different. You have not yet once refuted any of my claims and backed up your own on what makes the power cables change the sound of a system.

 

[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by CRESCENDOPOWER /img/forum/go_quote.gif LOL, you're not even using a system that you are familiar with.

But I am very familiar with the reference material being listened to.

 

[naamanf]

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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif you equate high-end with car audio. what can I say? I am sorry I wasted both my time and your time.

And what's laughable is that the DAC in my car is almost worth as much as your entire home system.

 

[spambob]

ive learned that most of the time a power cable is a powercable like stated by a few(cable thickness thing).
but having high quality, thick single conductor wires coming from the mains to a screw terminal block on the wall i s my way. then it connects to a power conditioner with my special cables(loose stranded copper wires unwound from small dc electric motors; going through flexible plastic tubes). from the power conditioner i suppose its back to "a power cable is a power cable", but i still did the special custom wires.

 

[ca90ss]

There are only three things that can affect the performance of a cable: inductance, resistance and capacitance. Anyone who believes there is some other magical factor that affects cable performance is full of crap. Without objective measurements of a specific cable showing differences in these 3 parameters subjective comparisons are worthless. /thread

 

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

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Originally Posted by ca90ss /img/forum/go_quote.gif There are only three things that can affect the performance of a cable: inductance, resistance and capacitance. Anyone who believes there is some other magical factor that affects cable performance is full of crap. Without objective measurements of a specific cable showing differences in these 3 parameters subjective comparisons are worthless. /thread

Knowing those 3 parameters will not tell you exactly what the cable sounds like, just like knowing specifications of a power amp will not tell you exactly what it sounds like. So, in my book those 3 parameters don’t mean all that much.