HIFIMAN Arya - Arya Stealth - Arya Organic :: Impressions Thread

[cgb3]

EQ will only raise level. It wont change the tone/tune.

The biggest misconceptions of EQ is thinking it will change the tune/tone.

“Upfront” should have said it differently. I meant actually tone wise. The Susvara is better tuned in the mids

Love my Schiit Lokius 6-Band Balanced EQ in my chain. Maybe the single best purchase in the last years.

I'm closing in on my 65th year of audio. Probably a solid 55 years of introspection, but thanks for telling me what matters.

 

[PlanarBunny]

If you have nothing right now - why not try it and see??? I have the Magni 3+ (discrete, vs the Heresy), and it's pretty decent when you feed it at least 2V from a DAC.


Where the Ananda is sort of "threadbare" - the Arya fills in what the Ananda merely hints at. The Arya has deeper, more textured, and more impactful bass; it has better realism, imaging, and layering; and it's a more complete "listening experience" compared to the Ananda - which sounds more like a simple HP. The Arya draws you into the music in a way that the Ananda doesn't quite muster.......


Probably this^^^........


HE-1000SE already has neodymium stealth magnets all-around, inside and out. The HE-1000v2 Stealth Magnets version is a new HP from HFM that's added to the HE-1000v2 family apart from the HE-1000SE......


Depends on the amp, IMO.....


For the V2, I wouldn't want to drive them with less than 2W BAL - they can suck up some current.......


Both. Topping's IC based amps don't really gel to well with HFM planars. The Aryas thriiiive on discrete Class A amps, IMO......


I bought my discrete Class A BAL amp from the used market (ie: Gustard H20) - for less than an OG Topping A90........


Discrete Class A FTW!!! Shop used for great deals, IMO......


This^^^^!!! Hamstrung HPs and leaving A LOT of performance and SQ on the table......


"Headroom" is there to give planar HPs proper bass dynamics. "Loud enough" is okay until a song with deep, impactful bass comes on - then you'll have wimpy, lean bass if not any bass impact at all. IOW, what's "loud enough" won't be powerful enough when the power for proper bass is needed......

I was thinking either E and L70 stack or the A30 pro and D30 Pro. 30 stack is a liiiittle bit cheaper than the 70 stack. Dunno if I'd wanna go all the way to an a90 it's quite a bit of money lol.

 

[morpheus69]

I was thinking either E and L70 stack or the A30 pro and D30 Pro. 30 stack is a liiiittle bit cheaper than the 70 stack. Dunno if I'd wanna go all the way to an a90 it's quite a bit of money lol.

You are better off with a discrete amp for the hifiman, unless you want a pretty sterile sound from a chip amp.

 

[PlanarBunny]

If you have nothing right now - why not try it and see??? I have the Magni 3+ (discrete, vs the Heresy), and it's pretty decent when you feed it at least 2V from a DAC.


Where the Ananda is sort of "threadbare" - the Arya fills in what the Ananda merely hints at. The Arya has deeper, more textured, and more impactful bass; it has better realism, imaging, and layering; and it's a more complete "listening experience" compared to the Ananda - which sounds more like a simple HP. The Arya draws you into the music in a way that the Ananda doesn't quite muster.......


Probably this^^^........


HE-1000SE already has neodymium stealth magnets all-around, inside and out. The HE-1000v2 Stealth Magnets version is a new HP from HFM that's added to the HE-1000v2 family apart from the HE-1000SE......


Depends on the amp, IMO.....


For the V2, I wouldn't want to drive them with less than 2W BAL - they can suck up some current.......


Both. Topping's IC based amps don't really gel to well with HFM planars. The Aryas thriiiive on discrete Class A amps, IMO......


I bought my discrete Class A BAL amp from the used market (ie: Gustard H20) - for less than an OG Topping A90........


Discrete Class A FTW!!! Shop used for great deals, IMO......


This^^^^!!! Hamstrung HPs and leaving A LOT of performance and SQ on the table......


"Headroom" is there to give planar HPs proper bass dynamics. "Loud enough" is okay until a song with deep, impactful bass comes on - then you'll have wimpy, lean bass if not any bass impact at all. IOW, what's "loud enough" won't be powerful enough when the power for proper bass is needed......

I was thinking either E and L70 stack or the A30 pro and D30 Pro. 30 stack is a liiiittle bit cheaper than the 70 stack. Dunno if I'd wanna go all the way to an a90 it's quite a bit of money lol.

You are better off with a discrete amp for the hifiman, unless you want a pretty sterile sound from a chip amp.

So what are my options other than A90 or A90D

 

[sahmen]

If you're looking for options within the same price ballpark, then I can tell you that my Singxer SA-1 plays very nicely with the Arya Stealth. (DAC: Schiit Bifrost 2/64)

 

[SwedishBass]

Sadly think I’ve gotta get rid of the Aryas. Inflation and interest rates has hit me real hard.

Edit: nah, I’m keeping them. Tried the Sennheiser HD 800S today and the 660S, and they sounded completely lifeless and boring in comparison. Too trebly in the former, to veiled in the latter. Just shows how great the Aryas really are!

 

[Tachyon88]

Sadly think I’ve gotta get rid of the Aryas. Inflation and interest rates has hit me real hard.

Edit: nah, I’m keeping them. Tried the Sennheiser HD 800S today and the 660S, and they sounded completely lifeless and boring in comparison. Too trebly in the former, to veiled in the latter. Just shows how great the Aryas really are!

Try the HD800s with oratory1990 EQ if you can. Bass is great and gets rid of that treble spike. I have the HD6xx and it does sound veiled in comparison to both HD800s and arya, but once you acclimate its great, but still seems like all of the "technicality" are turned down a bit in comparison.. FR is so close to harmon on the HD6series that EQ doesn't really change anything either, but the bass shelf is nice.

 

[SwedishBass]

Try the HD800s with oratory1990 EQ if you can. Bass is great and gets rid of that treble spike. I have the HD6xx and it does sound veiled in comparison to both HD800s and arya, but once you acclimate its great, but still seems like all of the "technicality" are turned down a bit in comparison.. FR is so close to harmon on the HD6series that EQ doesn't really change anything either, but the bass shelf is nice.

I would definitely like to try that, yes. It’s just the tonality of the Aryas are already so perfect to me, haha.

 

[ezduzit2500]

Would you say the arya v3 stealth would sound nice with 1000mw- 32ohm you have to start somewhere (I am not a loud listener, 95% jazz/ old blues).

Lot of people mention, you need stronger amp, but spending 1500 voor a headphone and right away another 1000 for the amp is hard to sell in the house

That's 1W. If that is all you have and you don't listen very loud, it would be acceptable. Just don't expect to get really impactful bass nor the nearly best out of them SQ wise......

 

[ezduzit2500]

Power is still volume. Your music peaks at 0 dBFS and your average loudness is not going to be far below that. As I said earlier, if your amplifier is actually pushing such power excursions to your headphones, you'd have blown your eardrums out.

I see people here talking about feeding into Arya with amps that deliver 2 watts of power. That's 127 dB SPL according to the Arya's sensitivity specification. I wasn't kidding about the eardrums.

You're not using that amount of power. Not even at peaks. Stop deluding yourselves into thinking you need extremely powerful amps.

Okay. Have fun with your less than impactful bass and thin-ish sound signature as you underpower them......

 

[ezduzit2500]

I was thinking either E and L70 stack or the A30 pro and D30 Pro. 30 stack is a liiiittle bit cheaper than the 70 stack. Dunno if I'd wanna go all the way to an a90 it's quite a bit of money lol.

IC based amps like the E/L70 or A/D30 Pro (and A90) generally sound sort of thin/bright/harsh with them, won't allow them to reproduce soundstage depth very well, and will sound rather unnatural with them. Discrete Class A or AB amps like the Asgard, Jotunheim, Singxer SA-1, or Flux Labs FA-10 or FA22 would sound better, IMO.....

 

[McCheese]

Okay. Have fun with your less than impactful bass and thin-ish sound signature as you underpower them......

Explain to me how I'm underpowering them. Use physics.

Oh you can't? Then your argument is bull.

Have fun with your expensive amps you don't need.

 

[McCheese]

Seriously, your argument boils down to "neener neener you're still wrong."

Are you twelve years old?

 

[jjazzy]

That's 1W. If that is all you have and you don't listen very loud, it would be acceptable. Just don't expect to get really impactful bass nor the nearly best out of them SQ wise......

You have to start somewhere. Was thinking of a more powerfull idsd signature at a later stadium. Or maybe a ifi diablo a better choice. (It al depends if the arya sounds okay with 1w)

Hate desktop amps, mostly because I don’t like to be stuck in one place in the house. One moment I like to sit in the living room, other moments upstairs, other moments in bed etc… can you image draging a desktop amp through the house all the time?

 

[PlanarBunny]

IC based amps like the E/L70 or A/D30 Pro (and A90) generally sound sort of thin/bright/harsh with them, won't allow them to reproduce soundstage depth very well, and will sound rather unnatural with them. Discrete Class A or AB amps like the Asgard, Jotunheim, Singxer SA-1, or Flux Labs FA-10 or FA22 would sound better, IMO.....

I could do an Asgard again. Thing is last time I had one it was giving me some static in the right channel and I sent it back like 3 times and they couldn't find it. I could try a brand new unit and just pair it with either my modi or E50. I had more interest in a Singxer for a fully balanced setup. If either the Asgard or Jotun would go good with the Arya I'd take another Crack at having an asgard again. I don't have a fully balanced Dac yet. E50 is fake balanced with the 6.5mm TRS in the back haha its odd.