Help needed - Open back headphone impressions

Dec 20, 2024 at 7:46 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

Imbrium998

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Hello everyone. I was wondering if I might be able to get some insight from some members that have much more experience than I do with headphones. I have been headphone listening for some time, but only seriously perhaps in the last year. So this means that I probably don't have wide experience with phone brands.

My music listening: Rock, Metal, Progressive Rock, Progressive and melodic metal. Classical (chamber, orchestra, pipe organ, quartet, operetta), Soundtracks, Fusion.

In any case, I am trying to find phones that suit my listening style. I have bought or spent significant time with the following headhpnes. Without a specific worry about comfort, here is what I have found based on my experience:

Focal Elegia - Sounded ok. However seemed like it wanted to provide more detail, but it had no more to give. In short...sounded balanced but not clear Grade: B-

Dan Clark E3 - Loved the make of them. Enveloping experience. Disappointed that they seemed a bit starved of power (I was using a Schiit Midgard at the time) It seemed to me like not all the frequencies were at a level I would consider listen-worthy at any given times. I guess I would consider this headphone as "not balanced" I only had the headphone for use of about 40-50 hours. I have since returned them, as $2k for something I am truly not enjoying isnt a good option Grade: B-

Audeze LCD-XC Creators Edition - Squashed sound stage. Just like with the DC E3s, some frequency ranges are not really there at a comfortable listening level for my taste. And yes....no low end at all. They are bigger than I would like, but I bought them for late night listening when I cannot use open back headphones. Grade: D-

Focal Elex - I feel like I actually got somewhere with these. They sounded fairly balanced to me and I used them 6-8 hours a day for months on end and felt like I got my moneys worth by buying them. They had decent low end, pretty reasonable at revealing the music the way I thought they should. Grade: A-

Focal Celestee - The sound signature is representative of what I would expect from a Focal. I feel like they are a little boomy, but not quite muddy. The soundstage is good for what I would expect of a close back headphone. Rather happy with these so far Grade: B+

Focal Clear - Bamm! These hit really close to a nice sounding set of cans. I was lucky enough to score a set, and have not looked back (going on about 4 months with these in very heavy rotation) Grade: A+

ZMF Bokeh - These are very new to me, so maybe I need to develop how they sound a bit more in my head. They are more of a fun headphone, a bit more boomy than the Focal Celestee. I want to love these so bad, but I find them very crispy on the top end. I did get some protein thin pads and replaced the solid titan mesh to cool them off. I still have yet to get comfortable with them just yet.

Based on my descriptions here, can anyone suggest a direction to head to considering what I like and don't like, and why?

Maybe I am too much of a Focal fanboy? I would not be hurt if I was called that, but I would love to find some alternatives going forward. Thank you for reading!

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Dec 20, 2024 at 8:11 PM Post #2 of 10
I've had a few on the list and tomorrow there's a pair of Focal Utopia arriving. For open back my favorite is the Hifiman Arya Stealth, for closed back the Dan Clark Stealth. Are you using only balanced on the Mudguard? The balanced side of them is significantly better than the SE which is disappointing. ASR did a review and measurements, it's really only worth using balanced.
 
Dec 20, 2024 at 8:18 PM Post #3 of 10
I've had a few on the list and tomorrow there's a pair of Focal Utopia arriving. For open back my favorite is the Hifiman Arya Stealth, for closed back the Dan Clark Stealth. Are you using only balanced on the Mudguard? The balanced side of them is significantly better than the SE which is disappointing. ASR did a review and measurements, it's really only worth using balanced.
Yes the balanced on the Midgard. I also use a Darkvoice 336se (which is obviously only single ended) and is not appropriate with all of the phones listed there. The Focals work amazing with the Darkvoice, but sound very stale with the Midgard
 
Dec 21, 2024 at 1:06 PM Post #4 of 10
My Meze 109 Pros (through the Schiit Loki+ EQ) are my most listened to.
 
Dec 27, 2024 at 5:55 AM Post #7 of 10
Popping back up. Can anyone provide advice on where to go next? Is there something better sounding than the Focal Clear?
What is your budget? The obvious pick for a Clear upgrade is the Utopia but it's substantially more expensive.
 
Dec 27, 2024 at 7:49 AM Post #8 of 10
You might want to explore brands like Sennheiser (HD800S), Audeze (LCD-4), ZMF (Atrium), or even Meze (Empyrean) for a more diverse selection beyond Focal. Given that you already appreciate the Focal Clear, you may also want to try the Focal Utopia or Elear for something familiar but with improved refinement and precision.
 
Dec 27, 2024 at 9:33 AM Post #10 of 10
You might want to explore brands like Sennheiser (HD800S), Audeze (LCD-4), ZMF (Atrium), or even Meze (Empyrean) for a more diverse selection beyond Focal. Given that you already appreciate the Focal Clear, you may also want to try the Focal Utopia or Elear for something familiar but with improved refinement and precision.
Some great suggestions I have not listened to the HD800S as of yet. I am also considering the Empyrean, but I was not sure about its sound signature. I heard from a good friend that its his favorite.

Thank you for your time and your suggestions. Helpful!
 

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