Help, did I mess up my ears?
Jan 16, 2008 at 3:53 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 14

barmar46

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I've been having intermittent throbbing pain in my ears since I've used akg k701s and found them shrill/harsh on the high end. I stayed working with the cans for a couple of months. But here's the weirdest part. I've lately been having pain in one of my teeth. I went to the dentist today figuring I had a cavity or needed a root canal and he said there was nothing wrong with my tooth. I'm wondering if it's referred pain from my ear. Maybe the 701s + listening too loud. I don't know but I'm pretty freaked out. Anyone have any clue or had this problem before. Please help.
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 4:07 AM Post #2 of 14
usually when you feel pain, that means something's wrong.

that should have been your first warning.

since you didn't heed that warning, and even listened to your 701s at an excessive volume, you might have damaged your hearing.

unless someone here contains more magic than lord voldemort himself, don't you think you should go to an ear specialist?
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 4:11 AM Post #3 of 14
try taking a break from your headphones and if you listen to anythign at all, make sure it's a reasonable volume, because the worst thing you can do is ruin your hearing when you have a nice pair of headphones like the k701s
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 4:19 AM Post #4 of 14
No amount of good music is worth hearing loss. When you listen at low volumes, your brain gets used to hearing the music at that level very quickly, but if you consistently listen to your music very loudly, you can get used to that too, which is dangerous.
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 6:43 AM Post #5 of 14
Thanks for all for the concern, advice and clear direction. I originally brought the strident/harshness to audiologist as a headphone related problen and she seemed unconcered. She thought the eardaches likely came from a real tooth problem was having. The ear pain seemed to lesson after that tooth was pulled and I pulled back on the frequency and loundenss of listening to the 701s I'm not all sure I've listened that loud in the first place, because really I'm most focused on this new tooth and figure the earaches were referred pain. So I will go see an audiologist and I certainly very concerned. (i'm not listening to or through anything right now, but what I really want to know from you is...has anybody had tooth pain that was rulled out as coming from the ears and identify it coming from another source? Ears.nose, throat? And when it was identified was the pain attributed to headphone listening mistakes? If so what did you do as far a treatment and how did it work out...Can you hear me out there? I sure hope so.
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 7:48 AM Post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by fordgtlover /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I recently had an inner ear infection that caused pain in my ear and my tooth. It had the side effect of making my K701 sound a bit shrill in that ear as well.


I had this same problem. Replace the K701 with PortaPros though.

Barmar46, there may be the possibility that you have a infection of your sinus cavity. I had one a few months ago, and the pain in my ear came on suddenly, and I wasn't expecting it. There is a good chance that continuing to listen to headphones is not going to pose a significant problem, unless it is at excessive volume, but it may be a good idea to get a check-up with an ENT specialist because it is possible that if you do have an infection and it goes untreated, it may result in some damage to the ear itself.
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM Post #8 of 14
A little known fact: if excessive (for you) highs are present, that you can not even hear, because it exceeds your hearing capabilities, it causes "listening fatigue" which is a vague pain and un-ease after a few minutes of using those cans. It can make you wonder wht is going on -- but, if you switch to another can that allows less highs, and the pain and un-ease does NOT happen with those cans, then you know what is happening, and should use different cans.
I've been through this, and now notice it right away (if it happens on a new can I'm trying the first time), so can tell whether a can is going to work well for *me* and my hearing.
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 1:26 PM Post #9 of 14
remember, the hair cells in the ears do not grow back, which means, once you lose/damage ear cells, they are gone permanently, and you might be stuck with hearing a constant high pitched sound in your ear that would never go away. So, yes, if you insist on the high volume in the future, you should take a break once in awhile, let's say, every 45 min? and really try to protect your ears
 
Jan 16, 2008 at 1:43 PM Post #10 of 14
Hi Barmar,

If your dentist is shure your teeth are fine, and you had your ear inspected by an otolaryngologist (ENT) and also is fine, I'd focus attention on the temporo-mandibular joint, which is frequently a source of ear pain. Maybe the big cups of the 701s have been pressing on your TMJ and that's why it aches.
Inner ear damage doesn't ache. It causes hearing loss, dizziness (true vertigo) or tinnitus, but rarely pain. In case the pain came from your inner ear, you likely had noticed hearing loss or any of the other symptoms.
Direct mechanical caused pain is more likely to happen with IEMs or ear buds.

Take care, don't listen too loud to protect your ears, as Eggroll says, a true damage to your inner ear hairy cells won't recover.

rgrds
 
Jan 18, 2008 at 3:33 AM Post #11 of 14
If you're feeling pain in your ears from the volume of your phones being too loud, it will go away when you turn down the volume. Of course, you're damaging your ears when you feel this pain which is never good for an audiophile. This pain will also be associated with a muffling of your hearing after you remove the phones, and perhaps a ringing. In the worst case, you'll hear this ringing in moderately quiet environments for the rest of your life. The pain would occur in both ears

If the pain is in your ear cartilage, it's probably caused by pressure of the phones against your ears. This will last for some minutes after you take the phones off, but is little to worry about. The pain would normally occur in both ears, though, due to non-symmetries in your outer ears or the phones, it could occur more in one ear than the other.

If you're ears are really painful in a diffuse way, it could well be a TMJ (temporo-mandibular joint) problem. This may occur more often if you're eating with the phones on. Normally, one ear will hurt worse than the other with a TMJ issue.

If there is dizziness associated with the pain, you may have an inner ear infection. Normally, an infection impacts only one ear at a time.
 
Jan 18, 2008 at 5:09 AM Post #12 of 14
Thank you so much for all your support. I have been really freaked out. My ears really hurt and so does my tooth. Dentist says there's nothing wrong with my tooth. My internal medicine physician is having me schedule a cat scan to check out eustachian tube/sinus cavity stuff. I've been alone on my own as my wife has been heading a medical team in Iraq. She finally returns on Sunday. I just read this thread from beginning to end two times through and your kindness and generosity was overwhelming. Much of what has helped me get by through these difficult times that my wife has been deployed has been through the good deeds of headfiers. I've never publicly shared my situation before but I feel this is the time and place to trust and thank you all.
Barry
 
Jan 18, 2008 at 6:21 AM Post #13 of 14
Wow. It must be rough. I couldn't imagine being in your situation. I salute your wife for her heroic service and you for maintaining strength. God bless you both.
 
Jan 18, 2008 at 7:28 AM Post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by barmar46 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thank you so much for all your support. I have been really freaked out. My ears really hurt and so does my tooth. Dentist says there's nothing wrong with my tooth. My internal medicine physician is having me schedule a cat scan to check out eustachian tube/sinus cavity stuff. I've been alone on my own as my wife has been heading a medical team in Iraq. She finally returns on Sunday. I just read this thread from beginning to end two times through and your kindness and generosity was overwhelming. Much of what has helped me get by through these difficult times that my wife has been deployed has been through the good deeds of headfiers. I've never publicly shared my situation before but I feel this is the time and place to trust and thank you all.
Barry



It sounds like you are on the right track.. If your Internal Med doctor doesn't get an obvious diagnosis with the CAT scan, I'd ask (rather assertively) for a referral to an Otolaryngologist (ENT) specialist. It's kind of unusual to have both sides start hurting at the same time, but it can happen. In any case, I'd get the CAT scan done ASAP.

So glad to hear that your wife is returning home safe from Iraq. I'm sure it'll be quite an adjustment to return to "normal" life after such a stressful situation, but a happy one for sure !!
 

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