[cjc]

I bought a Brand New pair of HD-650's last week and was surprised that it wasn't "dark" or veiled compared to my 10 year old slightly modded HD580's. To me they sound "similar"..... and in a good way but not a HUGE difference.   

 

[Audiowood]

I want to report the HD650 which I bought in recent times is not veil or dark at all.