[Gurra1980]

Hi

EDIT: Be sure you read the question properly before voting!

Do you guys/gals prefere to have the foam that covers the drivers of the 650 removed or not?

I tryed to remove the foam for some time ago but didn't like it, but I tryed today again and listened some time without it and I must say it was a great improvement most of the veil dissapeared and the trebble was much more noticable. It made guitars more natural and the texture (or what you call it) of voices and instrument become more noticable.

How do you people that has tested it think it changed the sound of the 650? Tell us!

 

[Duggeh]

I preferred the foam in when I had mine. Taking it out did something slightly off and warbly to the upper midrange.

Sennheiser put it there for a reason imo.

 

[jilgiljongiljing]

I prefer it with the foam on as well. Taking the foam off reduced the warmth and made it a bit bright. I kinda like the laid back warm sound with the foams on.

 

[SK138]

I have both HD580 and HD650 without the foam. I put the foam inside the driver housing, inside the grill. To me, this sound little better

 

[GreatDane]

I tried it without the foam for a while then put it back...I also stored the foam in between the driver and metal screen when trying foamless, it was a good way to keep from misplacing it.

I also prefer the more balanced (imo) sound with the foam in place. When I want them to be brighter I use my 204.

 

[Gurra1980]

I will try to use it without the foam for a while and see if I continue to like it, it use to take some time to find flaws in sound, but for now, me like it a lot!

 

[Zorander]

I replaced mine with thinner materials some 2 years ago. I have not gone back to the original material since then.

 

[Zodduska]

it's there to cut down reflections.

 

[ErnDiggity]

Oh whoops - I voted wrong. I meant No b/c I use the foam. I think question needs to be rephrased to

"Do you use the HD-650s without the foam pads?"

 

[troymadison]

I might de-foam my 580s when they get here.

 

[DSlayerZX]

omg, the thread name confused me. but disregard to my vote, I used 650 with the foams replace by tight stretched stocking (nylon).
I tried with foam, with out foam, replace foam with unwoven cloth, cloth, tissue, and nylon. I think cloth actually makes the headphone sounds more laid back (more laid back and ur... hmmm... veil?!?! compare to foam), while with out foam and nylon sounds really really really alike and being more upfront. while the unwoven cloth actually sounds quiet similar to foam

 

[Dept_of_Alchemy]

I prefer them in. I think Senn engineers put them in for a reason.

 

[Mher6]

Whoops..I read the question wrong and voted Yes. Should of voted "No." ^_^

 

[Gradofan2]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurra1980 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hi Do you guys/gals prefere to have the foam that covers the drivers of the 650 removed or not? I tryed to remove the foam for some time ago but didn't like it, but I tryed today again and listened some time without it and I must say it was a great improvement most of the veil dissapeared and the trebble was much more noticable. It made guitars more natural and the texture (or what you call it) of voices and instrument become more noticable. How do you people that has tested it think it changed the sound of the 650? Tell us!

It improved their sound precisely as you describe - much brighter with less veil - more like Grados and ATH's. A "clear" improvement to me!

And... yes... the Aphex 204 does a fine job of balancing their sound also, along with a silver cable.

 

[GreatDane]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradofan2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif And... yes... the Aphex 204 does a fine job of balancing their sound also, along with a silver cable.

I'll be trying a new silver cable with mine in about 3 weeks...along with pseudo balanced from my Central Station.

I was wondering about your final conclusions with the 204...so I guess you still have it ? ?