Guitar shredding: Awesome or wanky?

[Iron_Dreamer]

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Originally Posted by roadtonowhere08 However listening to Train of Thought, wayyyyy too much wankery. It damn near killed 'In the Name of God", and I LOVE that song.

Wow, sucks for you man. I love that solo, because it defies belief, every time I hear it I am simply amazed.

 

[Stephonovich]

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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer Wow, sucks for you man. I love that solo, because it defies belief, every time I hear it I am simply amazed.

Hear, hear. The shredding on that is simply unbelievable. A solo does not automatically disqualify a song as being serious, nor do odd special effects. (The Great Debate comes to mind, with the rather long intro of news bites about stem cell research and almost Nintendo-esque blips and boops in the background)

(-:Stephonovich

 

[D-EJ915]

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Originally Posted by Spyro Shredders are a dime a dozen.

'dunno what guitarists you know.

 

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by D-EJ915 'dunno what guitarists you know.

It's just that over the past 30 years I have seen and heard hundreds of guys who could shred (big names and no names) but I wouldn't consider shredding a major criteria on how great a musician a player is. About the past 10 years I have been listening to different types of jazz, mostly contemporary and while many of these guys can shredd, I've discovered that there is SO much more that makes a great musician than playing fast. But then this thread is strictly about shredding so that is cool.

 

[roadtonowhere08]

Guess it's just me. Oh well.

 

[Dusty Chalk]

Where's 'both'?

Sure it's wanky, but I dig it. I disagree with the wanking analogy -- I'd rather not watch that. But to see someone who really knows how to play play -- I could watch that for hours (and have, when hanging out with my guitar-playing friends).

 

[pne]

my favorite is Steve Vai, but I also listen to Joe Satriani, and Dream theater. They are about the only shred I can stand. Steve vai really stands out amoung the virtuosos to me because of his totally insane playing style. The way he uses the whammy and the wah pedal is amazing, and the sounds he makes I didnt even think could come from a guitar.

I can stand some Malmsteen, when he's not playing scales. Evil eye is a pretty good song imo. However like someone mentioned above his g3 live in denver performance was really disappointing. All he did was run up and down the fretboard at a mindblistering level to the point where you couldnt even really tell what was being playing, just that characteristic rrrrrr sound of mindless shred. Steve vai really shined in that performance doing quite a few awesome improvised solo's (non shred). Joe satriana came in second, his music was great but it seemed like he was lacking confidence when playing, and not to mention his amps were turned down so low to the point where he sounded like a rythym guitar.

 

[MrSiki99]

Guitar solos are an amazing thing. Eargasmic maybe!

 

[marios_mar]

Anyone likes the solo from

Faith No More-Easy

Its pretty original.

then there are simple and common solos like the one from

Sex Pistols God save the queen

 

[SumB]

Controlled, spontanious, and emotional solos can make or break a song. However it's a fine line. Overcalculation and overstructure can rob it of passion and make it sound insincere and fake. And likewise, the spastic random noodling guys like Kerry King do is totally lame.

 

[phkd]

I can't vote in this cause I love some guitar solos... the one that comes to mind immediately is in the song "I'd love to change the world" by Ten Years After, where the electric guitar does an amazing blues solo over the verse, chorus, and outro (which i guess is made possible by the fact that the entire song is 5 chords). then there are some solos that are just dumb. I love RATM and Tom Morello, but some of his solos are just annoying noises to me.

Edit: I missed you post, Pumbaa, but after reading it: Rock On.

 

[asmox]

petrucci is god.