[Runningwater]

Hello all grado fans:

I just got my Flat PAD from Todd today. Thanks Todd!!!
Flat pad does improve the bass of RS1, but lose the mid and detail. RS1 sounds darker than beofore. Honestly, I prefer my old stock pads. With the flat ones, all I get is "boom boom boom" in the music! Maybe good for tecno lovers, buy not for me. Just post my little opinion for those people who dont like so much bass

Cheers

R.

 

[acs236]

I agree with you and prefer the bowls too. I found the flats more comfortable. I wish the flats were a bit thicker to approximate the distance between ear and driver that the bowls give you.

 

[GoRedwings19]

Why don't you try reverse bowls

 

[Runningwater]

Quote:

Originally Posted by acs236 I agree with you and prefer the bowls too. I found the flats more comfortable. I wish the flats were a bit thicker to approximate the distance between ear and driver that the bowls give you.

Acutally, flats hurt me more than bowls.
With bowls, I am able to listen to music for over 2 hours, but with flats, my ears will complain in half an hour!

 

[Zoide]

vwaps / Sennheiser pads, maybe?

 

[NotoriousBIG_PJ]

If he doesn't like flats, he won't like reversed bowls or vwaps. Just let the man use his bowls hehe.

Biggie.

 

[joelongwood]

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotoriousBIG_PJ If he doesn't like flats, he won't like reversed bowls or vwaps. Just let the man use his bowls hehe. Biggie.

But he may like squashed bowls. To my ears, it's a nice middle ground.

 

[MD1032]

I completely agree with you, but for us bass hounds, the flats are a necessity! Especially on my bass-shy SR-80's, the flats really help. Still, I can't argue with you there. You lose a gigantic amount of high-end and mid-range detail and fluidness as well as the soundstage. In fact, the soundstage becomes so ridiculously compressed it's not a soundstage at all lol. Still, the increased bass response is undeniably excellent!

 

[Zoide]

But weren't the RS-1's originally designed to use flats?

That's how they are shown in the Grado website.

And yet on the main page they're shown with bowls...

http://www.gradolabs.com/

 

[some1x]

From my experience, the modded HD414 pads (and I assume flats also) do not compress the soundstage of RS1; i.e. RS1 with bowl pads projects out-of-head sound about the same size as RS1 with modded HD414. The main difference in imaging is the "size" of the sound sources. With bowl pads, instruments sound tiny, distant, and sparse. With HD414 pads, the instruments have body and blend into each other coherently. I prefer the latter.

 

[Beagle]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoide But weren't the RS-1's originally designed to use flats?

Yes they were. He just has to deprogram from the bowls and adjust to the flats sound.

 

[acs236]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beagle Yes they were. He just has to deprogram from the bowls and adjust to the flats sound.

So we're supposed to get used to sloppy mids and booming bass?

 

[crazyfrenchman27]

I'm a bowl man myself (with MS-2 and SR225).

Not everyone is in the flat man camp.

 

[crazyfrenchman27]

Quote:

Originally Posted by acs236 So we're supposed to get used to sloppy mids and booming bass?

EXACTLY! Smeared mids = bad. I'll take my piercing highs any day over your smeared mids .

 

[PsychoZX]

I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to bowls and flats. I use the flats on music that needs a little more impact on the low end and bowls when listening to something a bit more laid back.