Get me into jazz!
May 22, 2010 at 10:53 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 56

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I do like some jazz, but I've tried to get into parts and just can't do it.
 
The only two albums I can say I like as a whole are:
 
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Tsuyoshi Yamamoto Trio - Misty
 
I've heard there is a Japanese edition of Kind of Blue that's a must own. Essentially what I'm asking is, are there any better reproductions on vinyl, SACD, CD, or DVD-A worth investing in over the $10 typical CD you find in stores?
 
As for the Misty album, is there anywhere I can get it anymore? I've found prices around $80, not willing to pay that much for an album I'm not 100% on yet.
 
Anyhoo, I've tried some other jazz like Davis' "Relaxin" as well as Blue Train, Soultrane and Dakar by John Coltrane. I'm not huge on any of these really, they're just sort of background music and don't invoke the same response. I also love the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack, though I don't own it. If that gives any insight into the sound I like, then go for it!
 
I grabbed Norah Jones' "Come Away With Me" on SACD the other day and I like it, but not as much as the two up top.
 
Basically, help me get into jazz with some essentials as well as some personal recommendations. Thanks a bunch!
 
May 22, 2010 at 11:23 PM Post #2 of 56
There's a lot more to jazz than just free jazz, bop and fusion. Although the tv series sucked, the companion CDs to Ken Burns' Jazz were great. It doesn't work to listen to jazz the way you listen to rock. It's a different animal. If it sounds like background music, you probably just don't understand it yet.

Unless it's smooth jazz and then it actually is background music...
 
May 22, 2010 at 11:37 PM Post #3 of 56
Well that's what I'm sort of getting at. I dig the bebop sound and really get into it, whereas some, but not all, of the softer jazz just sort of bores me. I'm hoping we can take my tastes, integrate elements of the other subgenres, and overall get some damned good albums.
 
Oddly enough, I'm watching the Ken Burns series right now haha!
 
May 23, 2010 at 3:51 AM Post #4 of 56
I like red hot jazz myself, especially Harlem and early swing. Nothing soft about that. Trad jazz kicks ass too.
 
May 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM Post #5 of 56
Any album recommendations?
 
May 23, 2010 at 3:06 PM Post #6 of 56
If you're into the bebop and hard bop sound, definitely check out any of the earlier material by Thelonious Monk or John Coltrane. I can't think of specific recommendations off the top of my head, but I will say to start with the earlier material of those guys - especially in Coltrane's case; his later material got pretty crazy.
 
May 23, 2010 at 8:04 PM Post #7 of 56
 
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Basically, help me get into jazz with some essentials as well as some personal recommendations. Thanks a bunch!


 
Here are some essential albums and some of my personal favorites. I've only selected albums that I think are at least reasonably accessible on the essential albums list. Personal favorites list may contain some albums that are not as easily accessible, but are very rewarding if you are able to like them. I've left out all the albums you mentioned you had already heard. If there are many albums from the same artis in the list, I've arranged them in chronological order starting with the earlies recording (note: albums have been arranged according to their recording dates, not their release dates).
 
Albums I'd call essential (or almost essential) AND reasonably accessible:
 
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers: Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers (nowadays known as Moanin')
Bill Evans Trio: Waltz for Debby
Charles Mingus: Blues & Roots, Mingus Ah Um
The Dave Brubeck Quartet: Time Out
Hank Mobley: Soul Station
Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage
John Coltrane: Giant Steps, My Favorite Things, Crescent
Keith Jarrett: The Köln Concert
Miles Davis: 'Round About Midnight
Oliver Nelson: The Blues and the Abstract Truth
Stan Getz & João Gilberto: Getz/Gilberto
 
Some of my personal favorites (some of these could also be called essential):
 
Alice Coltrane: Ptah, the El Daoud
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers: Free for All
Charles Mingus: Tijuana Moods
Eric Dolphy: Out to Lunch!
Herbie Hancock: Takin' Off
Joe Henderson: Page One
John Coltrane: Coltrane live at Birdland, A Love Supreme, Interstellar Space
McCoy Tyner: Sahara
Miles Davis: Workin' with The Miles Davis Quintet, Milestones, Miles Smiles, A Tribute to Jack Johnson
Ornette Coleman: The Shape of Jazz to Come, Free Jazz
Patricia Barber: Modern Cool
Pekka Kuusisto & Iiro Rantala: Subterráneo
Thelonious Monk: Monk's Music
Trio Töykeät: Kudos, Wake
Wayne Shorter: JuJu
 
In case that feels like a lot, I'll name five albums that are in my opinion most essential on the list and five albums that I recommend based on my personal preference (from the personal favorites list).
5 most essential albums from my list: The Blues and the Abstract Truth, Crescent, The Köln Concert, Mingus Ah Um, Time Out
5 personal recommendations: Coltrane live at Birdland, Monk's Music, Ptah, the El Daoud, Subterráneo, Wake
 
If one could only hear 3 of the albums I've listed they should be: The Blues and the Abstract Truth, The Köln Concert, Time Out
 
May 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM Post #8 of 56
Anything by the greats is gonna be a safe choice. Jazz is so diverse that you have to find your niche or you can take it all in. I'll just list off some of my favorites:
 
John Coltrane
Charlie Parker (his recordings are so old sometimes it is incredibly hard to enjoy)
Michael Brecker
Dave Brubeck
J.J. Johnson
Miles Davis
Kenny Garrett
Charles Mingus
Oscar Peterson
Pat Metheny
Sonny Rollins
Ahmad Jamal
Stanley Clarke
Chet Baker
 
And anyone who's played with them.
 
May 23, 2010 at 9:28 PM Post #9 of 56
Mingus.
 
Black Saint & The Sinner Lady
Mingus Ah Um
Changes Two
 
Also try 60's Herbie Hancock.
 
TJ's list is an excellent primer. Try and sample things on YouTube/Last.fm/whatever and get an idea of who you like.
 
May 23, 2010 at 9:56 PM Post #10 of 56
Don't forget all the GREAT JAZZ GUITAR ARTIST......I cut/pasted this top 100 list....MY FAVORITES IN RED......My Father(Henry "Hank" Fecteau) was a killer guitar player..
[size=xx-small]1. Wes Montgomery
  2. Django Reinhardt
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[size=xx-small]  3. Pat Metheny
  
[/size][size=xx-small]4. Joe Pass[/size]
[size=xx-small]  [/size][size=xx-small]5. Charlie Christian[/size]
[size=xx-small]  6. John McLaughlin
  7. Allan Holdsworth
  8. Grant Green
  9. John Scofield
10. Jim Hall
11. Larry Coryell
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[size=xx-small]12. Kenny Burrell[/size]
[size=xx-small]13. Bill Frisell
14. Larry Carlton
15. Pat Martino
16. Mike Stern
17. Al Di Meola
18. Lenny Breau
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[size=xx-small]19. Herb Ellis[/size]
[size=xx-small]20. John Abercrombie[/size]
[size=xx-small]21. George Benson(His Early STUFF)[/size]
[size=xx-small]22. Lee Ritenour[/size]
[size=xx-small]23. Tal Farlow[/size]
[size=xx-small]24. Lonnie Johnson
25. Eddie Lang
26. Robert Conti
27. Johnny Smith
28. Bill Connors
29. George Van Eps
30. Jimmy Bruno
31. Jimmy Raney
32. Hank Garland
33. Joe Diorio
[/size]
[size=xx-small]34. Barney Kessel[/size]
[size=xx-small]35. Sonny Sharrock
36. Oscar Moore
[/size]
[size=xx-small]37. Les Paul[/size]
[size=xx-small]38. Jeff Golub
39. Ralph Towner
40. Russ Freeman
41. Derek Bailey
42. Ted Greene
43. Martin Taylor
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[size=xx-small]44. Howard Roberts[/size]
[size=xx-small]45. Charley Byrd
46. Ed Bickert
47. Chet Atkins
48. Scott Henderson
49. George Barnes
50. Gabor Szabo
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[size=xx-small]51. Robben Ford
52. Charlie Hunter
53. John Pizzarelli
54. Kurt Rosenwinkel
55. Thom Rotella
56. Billy Bauer
57. Henry Johnson
58. Billy Bean
59. Sonny Greenwich
60. Dean Parks
61. Steve Khan
62. Frank Gambale
63. Mark Stefani
[/size]
[size=xx-small]64. Stanley Jordan[/size]
[size=xx-small]65. Ronny Jordan
66. Bireli Lagrene
[/size]
[size=xx-small]67. Earl Klugh[/size]
[size=xx-small]68. Grant Geissman
69. Ken Navarro
70. Harry Volpe
71. Paul Bollenback
72. Lorne Lofsky
73. Nguyen Le
74. Russell Malone
75. Daryl Stuermer
76. Phil Upchurch
77. Ulf Wakenius
78. Hiram Bullock
79. Andy Summers
80. Nick Webb
[/size]
[size=xx-small]81. Tony Mottola[/size]
[size=xx-small]82. Bucky Pizzarelli
83. Norman Brown
84. Tiny Grimes
85. Tommy Tedesco
86. Mark Whitfield
87. Julio Fernandez
88. Marc Ribot
89. Greg Carmichael
90. John Pisano
91. Emily Remler
92. Brian Hughes
93. Fitzroy Coleman
94. Mick Goodrick
[/size]
[size=xx-small]95. Kevin Eubanks[/size]
[size=xx-small]96. Carl Kress
97. Wolfgang Muthspiel
98. Tuck Andress
99. Robert Normann
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May 25, 2010 at 7:29 PM Post #12 of 56
John Coltrane
-Crescent (Absolutely stunning)
-A Love Supreme
 
Dave Brubeck
-Time Out
-Live at Carnegie Hall
 
Miles Davis
If you want to get into fusion
-A Tribute to Jack Johnson
-In A Silent Way
-Bithces Brew
 
for new stuff check out "The Bad Plus". Really weird/interesting. They like to do covers of popular songs. They do a mean Tom Sawyer cover. i hjave...
-These Are the Vistas
-Prog
 
Hebrie Hancock
-Head Hunters (can't go wrong with this. really funky)
 
Weather Report. Really funky as well
-Heavy Weather
-Black Market
 
enjoy
 
May 25, 2010 at 9:37 PM Post #13 of 56
I agree with most of the suggestions above.  Since not many jazz singers were mentioned, here's a little starter list:
 
Kurt Elling - Nightmoves, The Messenger, Dedicated to You
Patricia Barber - Modern Cool, A Fortnight in France, Nightclub
Tierny Sutton - On the Other Side
Karin Allyson - Remember John Coltrane, In Blue
Sophie Milman - Take Love Easy
Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown
Dianne Reeves - The Calling, Goodnight and Goodluck
Madeleine Peyroux - Careless Love
 
That's all that's coming to me right now.  I tried to make a list of good sounding albums, and outside of the Sarah Vaughan disc most of them are fairly recent.  Of course you can't go too wrong with many of the classic singers too.
 
May 25, 2010 at 10:52 PM Post #14 of 56
You forgot the two best jazz singers, Ella Fitzgerald and Dinah Washington.
 
May 25, 2010 at 11:50 PM Post #15 of 56
Jazz and I have a love hate relationship. Most of the time I like laid back melodic jazz, soundtracks tend to be great for this stuff, and funnily enough, one of my favorite jazz artists is Roswell Rudd, a trombonist known for his avant garde snappy jazz-- But if you find some recording of his newer quartet (The Roswell Rudd Quartet) there's some great music in there with a lovely crew he put together and a talented vocalist.
 
Yoko Kanno composed a lot of good bebop and jazz for the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack-- one hell of a talented lady!
 
Other than those particular artists, I have a large jazz collection for parties with only a few slower tracks that I listen to on my own. One of my favorites being John Coltrane's "Say it (Over and over again)" and Sinatra is always great for some big band jazz.
 
But hey, while we're at the recommendation point, I wouldn't object if someone noted some good bands / musicians for some slower melodic jazz (vocal or no). :wink:
 

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