May 16, 2021 at 3:08 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

WaveTheory

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 25, 2020
Posts
339
Likes
1,344
Location
USA
NOTE: This roundup review was originally published on HiFiGuides Forum on 1 January, 2021. https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/get-amped-wavetheorys-roundup-of-most-200-head-amps/19690

INTRODUCTION

Promises Kept

I’ve cranked out several reviews of <200USD headphone amplifiers recently and in a few of those reviews promised some more detailed comparison thoughts of those amps. This post is the delivery on that promise. The competitors are: JDS Labs Atom, Monolith Liquid Spark, Topping L30, Geshelli Labs Archel 2 GMR, iFi Zen CAN, Schiit Magnius, Schiit Asgard 3. Links to my reviews of each unit will be provided in the sections for each below - if said review exists. There was a stretch in early December 2020 where I had all of these amps in-house at the same time. The Atom, Liquid Spark, Zen CAN, and Asgard 3 are all personal purchases. The L30, GMR, and Magnius were loans from Apos Audio, Geshelli Labs, and Schiit, respectively. See my reviews of those three for the relevant disclaimers and declarations. Yes, there are other amps that exist in this category that are not part of this round-up. Notable omissions include the two $99 pieces of Schiit: the Magni 3+ and Magni Heresy, Geshelli Labs Erish, and the new Topping A50s (which is actually $220, but will likely go on sale for <200 with some regularity). I am only human and do so many at once, afterall ;p. Apos is planning to send me an A50s sometime in early 2021.* The Erish, at $180, certainly fits the price criteria of this roundup but I just haven't had an opportunity to hear one. It is also interesting in that it's required to be used balanced. The other amps on this list that are balanced at least give the option of being connected single-ended, which keeps the entry cost to them lower. Still, if anyone out there is willing to send me an Erish for evaluation, please PM me.

*The Topping A50s has been released. I reviewed it here: https://forum.hifiguides.com/t/topping-a50s-headphone-amp/19204/5. Spoiler: I would not rank it very high on this list.

Some Early Commentary

If you’re plugged into the audiophile world in 2020 and now early 2021, you’ve likely heard the phrase “good audio is getting cheap and cheap audio is getting good.” This collection of headphone amps provides some pretty good evidence of that claim. Even the amps that fall below the averaged standard of this group outperform many of the more expensive headphone amps that existed even a decade ago. Another familiar term “a rising tide lifts all boats” is another pertinent and more general expression that applies here. Simply put, the bar for headphone amplifier performance has been raised significantly. All of the amps in this roundup sound better than headphone amps from 10+ years ago at this price point. The comparisons that follow are therefore all relative to each other and with respect to the early 2021 state of budget headphone amplifiery (yeah, made up word), not in comparison to all headphone amps that exist right now.

I’ll first introduce each amplifier, in ascending order of cost. As part of those introductions I’ll include pros and cons and a ‘recommended for’ summary. Then, I’ll use a graphical ranking system and follow it with some limited commentary. At the end I’ll give my bottom line.

THE COMPETITORS

JDS LABS ATOM - $99 – Read my comparison w/ SMSL SP200 here**

Pros:
  • Excellent measurements
  • Wide and coherent soundstage, especially considering price
  • Strong midrange timbre
  • 2 inputs and a preamp out
Cons:
  • Physical build quality
  • Can struggle with Fostex RP driver-based headphones
Comments:

The Atom amp was an early measurement champion, out-THX-ing the single ended performance of the Drop THX AAA 789 amp and doing it without THX tech. I found in my own direct comparison that it was hot on the heels of the THX-based SMSL SP200 in most aspect of sound quality and even bested the SP200 in midrange timbre. In that comparison I stated the SP200 had better treble performance than the Atom. After more listening and learning more about this audiophile hobby I’m betting that the Atom is actually smoother and just as detailed in the top end but may not present that way immediately because more forward treble can masquerade as being more detailed. For $99, though, the Atom is virtually without sonic fault. The only price-appropriate headphone I found it to have any issue with was the Fostex RP driver-based Dekoni Blue. I thought the bass was a little bit more bloated and less controlled on the Atom than the Liquid Spark or the Magni 3 (not the 3+). The Atom handles planars and high-impedance loads with equal aplomb, but it may not be the best sonic match for some of the more treble-forward cans out there like the Beyer DT series.

Recommended for:

Anyone on a tight budget who wants to explore the world of <$500. It’s also handy if you’re on a budget and have 2 sources you want to run through a headphone amp.

Monolith Liquid Spark - $109.99

Pros:
  • A different sound than most of these other measurement-chasing amps, namely warmer and smoother
  • Designed by Alex Cavalli
  • Build quality
  • The PSU power brick is in the middle of the cord (OK, I might the only one who cares, but I think that’s nice)
  • Preamp output
Cons:
  • The gain switch is only about 3db difference and in practice is more of a slight EQ switch
  • Runs hotter than all other amps in this group save Asgard 3
Comments:

The Spark is another excellent entry into headphone amplifiers. It dares to have a different sound than many of its direct competitors with a warmer and smoother sound signature. The high frequencies have a slight roll-off, or at least the perception of one, it still measures horizontally in a frequency response curve. It’s a little bit more powerful than the Atom and was my favorite amp from this grouping for the Dekoni Blue. The Spark controlled the Blue’s bass well and also somehow reined in its midbass bloat better than even the Asgard 3. The Spark also really shines with treble-forward headphones like the Beyer DT series. My 600-ohm DT880 was far less sharp and sibilant on the Spark than it was the Atom. Since the Spark has a slight warm coloration to the sound from perceptive neutral you need to be a little more careful in headphone pairings than some of the other amps here, but is also really hard to go wrong with the Spark at $109.

Recommended for:

Those on a budget who find their headphones to be a little too sharp in the treble or someone seeking a budget alternative sound to the clinical sound of many of the other amps on this list.

Topping L30 - ~$140-150 – Read my review here

Pros:
  • Best measurements in this group
  • Build quality
  • Preout and headphone amp toggled with physical switch
Cons:
  • Oversmoothed sound
  • Aggressive bass roll-off below 50Hz – not measured but definitely heard
  • Chased measurement excellence over sound quality
Comments:

The Topping L30 is based on the same single-ended circuitry found in Topping’s top-of-the-line A90 amp. It is the measurement champ in this roundup. It has a very robust physical construction and for the price point it has a unique twist on switching between the headphone amp and preamp. However, its measurements do not translate well to sound quality. Overall, its sound is oversmoothed to the point of sounding sluggish and the bass audibly falls off and quickly disappears below about 50Hz.

Recommended for:

Budget-minded listeners who care about measurements alone.

Geshelli Labs Archel 2 GMR - $149 – Read my review here

Pros:
  • Great balance between excellent measurements and sonic performance
  • Excellent delivery of available power to the headphone drivers
  • A slightly more lively, engaging sound than most measurement-focused amps in this price range
  • Strong timbre that challenges that of some of the more expensive amps in this set
  • 2 inputs
  • An interesting DIY-style aesthetic
Cons:
  • Not a ton of power
  • No preamp
  • Indicator LEDs are bright
Comments:

By specification, the GMR is the least powerful amp of this group but it in no way sounds like it. Even with my 600-ohm DT880 and an iFi Zen DAC’s bass boost piped through it the GMR sounded confident and in-control. I admire this amp for that alone. It draws only 6 watts of power from its PSU but delivers that power to the headphone drivers with remarkable efficiency and ease. To my ear there is a slight v shape to the sound signature when compared to the more neutral amps in this roundup but it is also not fair to call its midrange recessed. The detail retrieval and timbre are very good. The soundstage is wide and coherent.

Recommended for:

You have $150 for an amp, you want a little bit more technical performance than the Atom can deliver but still like that type of sound, and don’t need a preamp output. Supporting a small mom ‘n pop type shop is also a bonus.

iFi Zen CAN - $169 – Read my review here

Pros:
  • Balanced
  • Class A output stage
  • Bass boost and crossfeed circuits in analog domain
  • 2 single-ended inputs and one balanced input
  • Balanced (not single ended) preamp out
Cons:
  • Power spec is good but that power is not delivered well to headphone drivers
  • Cannot handle high-impedance loads well despite iFi’s confident claims to the contrary
  • All balanced connections are 4.4mm pentacon, requiring specialized and hard-to-find cables
Comments:

The Zen CAN is a Jekyll-and-Hyde product that sounds pretty good above 100Hz with low-impedance headphones and sounds dreadful with high-impedance headphones. It’s also deceptively costly if the goal is to use it balanced, as it’s constructed, because its balanced input and preout is 4.4mm pentacon, which is unusual for interconnect cables.

Recommended for:

Those with low-impedance headphones who also live in countries where Schiit products cannot be easily obtained.

Schiit Magnius - $199 – Read my review here

Pros:
  • Balanced
  • SE & balanced preouts
  • Solid construction
  • Best sounding of the budget, measurement-focused amps I’ve heard so far
Cons:
  • SE headphone output sounds mediocre at best
  • Power switch on the back
  • Does not perform as well as its equally priced sibling
Comments:

Schiit accomplished something remarkable with the Magnius: they made a measurement-chaser of an amp sound much closer to the sound of amps that aren’t chasing measurements but excellent sound than any others in this price range. They also offered a fully balanced design with 5 watts of power per channel in an under $200 package. The problem? Passion for Sound said it well in his Asgard 3 review (): the Magnius still sounds like you’re listening to a recording while the Asgard 3 sounds like you’re listening to music.

Recommended for:

Those who want measurement excellence first, sound quality a close second, and need lots of power.

Schiit Asgard 3 - $199 for just amp – Read my initial impressions here or buy it here

Pros:
  • Class A/B
  • Built like a tank
  • PSU integrated into chassis
  • Modular construction with options for DAC modules or phono input
  • Best sounding <$200 amp right now
  • Best sounding <$200 amp right now
  • Yes, I wrote that twice
Cons:
  • Power switch on back
  • Runs hot
  • Indicator notch on volume knob is hard to see
  • Weight distribution is asymmetric. Pushing the headphone plug in can rotate the amp around the left side.
Comments:

I mean, I buried the lead in the ‘Pros’ list. To my ear this is the best sounding <$200 amp out there. I’m flabbergasted by how much sonic performance Schiit wrings out of this beast and then still sells it for $199. It is not an exaggeration to say that it can throw punches with some $500 amps. Is it as good all around as those $500 amps? No. But there are individual aspects of its sound, like spatial performance or timbre or impact, where it challenges that same feature in those $500 amps. It is also very headphone-agnostic. It sounds great whether you plug in a low-impedance IEM, high-impedance dynamic, or large planar headphone. The sound is a little warmer and thicker than neutral, but that does not mean it sacrifices detail or other technical aspects of performance.

Recommended for:

People who love listening to music through headphones and have $200 for an amp.

SONIC PERFORMANCE RANKING

My posts get long – LOL. So, this time I’ll take a “a picture is worth a thousand words” approach and use a visual ranking. This image conveys my ranking, as well as my subjective opinion on the magnitude of the differences, of the sonic performance of these amps. Note that this ranking is a comparison within this grouping and not with all headphone amps in existence. Also note that the distances between just mentioned have no official scale but are at least close to something approximating scale. Also, these positions are what I think as of this writing. As my tastes change I reserve the right to move these around a bit.

1621191095624.png


The Zen CAN was arguably the hardest to position because condensing its performance into some sort of “overall” metric is tough. It sounds very different with low-impedance loads than with high-impedance loads. Yet even with low-impedance loads its quality is quite good above ~100Hz and falls back in this pack under that same frequency. It’s above 100Hz, low-impedance performance is slightly superior to the Magnius but in overall performance I have to drop it below the Magnius. Still, with appropriate load and above 100Hz the Zen CAN has more natural timbre than Magnius. The Zen CAN generally sounded more lifelike while they Magnius sounded sterile and flat at times. But, the Zen CAN absolutely cannot compete with the Magnius’s bass performance. For me that’s such an important aspect of sound that I had to drop the Zen CAN overall in the rankings. The advantage the Magnius has over Zen CAN in this one area is much bigger than the advantage the Zen CAN has over Magnius in any other area. I also thought long and hard about whether I should rank the CAN above or below the GMR, but given that Zen CAN’s performance is so conditional I would recommend the GMR over the Zen CAN for general use. Simply put the GMR will match better with a wider range of headphones than Zen CAN will.

The Atom gained more of my respect in this showdown. In particular, its spatial performance belies its price. That staging is relatively wide and coherent with solid imaging and separation. It doesn’t touch Asgard (none of them do), but it’s closer to the GMR, Magnius, and Zen CAN than the price difference might lead one to believe. It lags behind those others in things like detail retrieval and dynamic impact, though. However, Atom might be a better performer in the bass regions that Zen CAN yet, regardless of load type. I’ll give the Atom the unofficial tag of “Lightweight Champion” of this grouping.

The Liquid Spark was not as consistently good as Atom with any one aspect of the sound but there were some headphones – again Beyer DT880 – where it climbed in the ranking because of how well it synergized. I think the Atom is technically superior more often than the Spark, but the Spark has some undeniable magic with certain cans. It also still has a unique sound to it that may attract some.

The Geshelli GMR gets my “Middleweight Champion” tag in this grouping. It’s an excellent all-arounder and is ‘middleweight’ because its price is the median of this grouping. I thought its timbre and detail retrieval were very close to the more expensive Magnius but could not quite match the soundstage width, imaging, or impact that Magnius brought.

The two amps I haven’t commented on individually yet are the L30 and Asgard 3. They both essentially break anything resembling a unifying price/performance metric in this grouping, and they do it in opposite directions. The L30 lags behind the rest of this grouping in subjective sonic performance to my ear. It’s too smooth, too afraid to offend, and rolls off the bass too much. The Asgard 3 is just a stunner. I eventually had to stop switching to it because every time I did I didn’t want to leave it. If I started a track on the Asgard 3, everything else was a letdown in comparison. It started putting so much distance between itself and the rest of the pack that I eventually just said, “Ok, you’re the clear winner. I’ll pay attention to these others now.” In my Magnius review, I remarked that it took awhile to separate the Magnius from the Asgard. I’m not contradicting that here. As listening time went on – this ‘shootout’ went on beyond the time I spent specifically reviewing Magnius – it simply became clear that the Asgard 3 was on another level from the rest of these amps. The detail, speed and control, soundstage width, imaging and separation, and timbre, which is just about all aspects of the sound, were better on Asgard 3 than any of these other amps. With the disclaimer that I have not heard every amp in the category and with the further statement I’m happy to be wrong because it means we all win, I’ll say this: the Schiit Asgard 3 is the best sounding headphone amplifier you can buy for $300, and they sell it for $200. Schiit caught lightning in a bottle with Asgard 3. “Heavyweight Champion” of this grouping, if that wasn’t clear, lol.

FINAL THOUGHTS

This price category is tough with recommendations, to be completely honest. At the true entry level, between the Atom and the Liquid Spark here (probably throw in the newer Schiit Magni models too, which are not here) it’s a tough call. The Atom is probably better with more headphones than Spark, but you can’t really go wrong with any of these entry-level units anymore. The performance jump up to the Asgard 3 is big, though; like really Really REALLY big. If you live in a country where Schiit is easy to obtain (which unfortunately has to be said because as of this writing Schiit’s international distribution is :poop:), it’s hard for me to truly recommend any of the amps that hang out around $150. For my money it’s grab a $99 amp (really, just pick one), or save for Asgard 3. That does not mean that those middle-priced units are bad or are not worth their asking price. The GMR is a solid performer, but the gap between the Atom/Spark and the GMR is smaller than the gap between the GMR and Asgard 3.

Am I a Schiit shill? No. Am I an Asgard 3 shill? Yes. I’ll wear that label until someone launches a product that beats it at this price. I’m ‘shilling’ it because I truly believe it’s the best option under 200USD. I actually look forward to the day when that’s no longer true because that product, whatever it is, will be some kind of monster.

OK, that’s it. Thanks for reading everyone and enjoy the music!




**This comparison is old and was written while I still had even more to learn that I still do even now. My viewpoints on some things have likely changed since I wrote this and that’s ok. I’ll leave this comparison as is as evidence of growth and learning.
 

Attachments

  • 1621191203765.png
    1621191203765.png
    115.4 KB · Views: 0
May 16, 2021 at 3:16 PM Post #2 of 10
That’s a great round up! You may wish to post it in the amp section :).
 
May 16, 2021 at 3:20 PM Post #3 of 10
Lol. You are right of course. That's what I meant to do. I'll see if I can move it.

EDIT: I put in a request to have it moved to the amps category. Noob error :face_palm:
 
Last edited:
May 18, 2021 at 7:38 PM Post #4 of 10
Solid review.

I also have an Asgard 3
(and an Asgard 2, an Atom, 6 or so portables;
I've listened carefully to the Spark,
had a Gustard H-10 which was fantastic) -
burnt out after 3/4 years or I would not have
replaced it.

Now, though, I do almost all of my headphone listening
through a JDS Labs El Amp II.
$249. on the JDS site.

I like the sound more than that of the Asgard 3 or any
of my other amps, for that matter.

Plenty of power - clean musical power,that never gets brassy or harsh, solid build quality (e.g. metal construction.( runs cool)
internal lighting makes it easy to locate esp, in the dark:slight_smile:,
built in preamp,
IMO, if JDS was interested - at all -in marketing, advertising etc. to the
same extent as some other (competing) companies, the El Amp II would be
much more well known, a bigger topic of discussion on Head-Fi and
"similar" sites, and a bigger seller as IMO it certainly deserves to be.

Finally, it's sold direct - with a 15 day money back guarantee - from a company
with a history of outstanding customer
service.

So far it's my choice for headphone amplification in the $100-250 price range.
 
Last edited:
May 29, 2021 at 8:05 AM Post #5 of 10
Hi @WaveTheory, this is a wonderful effort, and deserves much more attention!

I hope you don't mind me adding some of my thoughts, having owned three of the amplifiers in your review - the JDS Atom, Cavalli Liquid Spark, and the ZEN CAN - in addition to the Schiit Magni 3 and 3+.

My experiences have diverged in some ways from yours. I'll summarise my impressions briefly below:

Liquid Spark

I'll touch on the Liquid Spark first. While I did not have the opportunity to compare them to the Atom directly, I owned the latter prior to and after selling the Spark within a a short window of time. To my ears, the Spark was clearly the smoother and warmer amp, and perhaps a better pairing depending on other components in ones chain. I enjoyed its tonality enough, but the distinct drop in clarity and transparency compared to the Atom led me to selling it and re-purchasing the Atom.

Of the Atom, Spark, ZEN CAN, and Magni 3 and 3+, I found the Spark to have the most conventionally 'musical' and tube-like sound.

JDS Atom / Magni 3

I've owned the Atom thrice (yes) and currently have one along with the ZEN CAN. I also I had the opportunity to compare the Atom directly to the Magni 3 (not 3+). As with the Liquid Spark, I found the Atom to be the more technical unit: more precise, more detailed, but also leaner and less full-bodied.

In comparison to the Atom, I found the Magni 3 fuller-bodied, denser, with greater solidity, if you will. What I didn't like, however, was its jarringly 'wooden' tonality, almost as if Schiit were aiming for a more organic tonality, but not really succeeding, instead resulting in a self-conscious tuning that could not but attention to itself. Macrodynamics were also limited, and soundstage was a little odd. There was a clear perception of space between images, but the entire scene was played out on a very small scale.

I also had issues with scratchy volume pots and with getting enough volume (yes) from two separate units, despite their high output measurements on ASR.

In this instance, the Atom was a clear preference. I would say that neither is outstanding in terms of soundstage.

Magni 3+

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to compare the Magni 3+ to the original 3, or any of the other amps listed above. I did have an iFi nano iDSD Black Label at the time, and having owned four iFi products, feel quite confident in saying that they tend to have a very consistent sound signature, or 'house sound'.

I much preferred the Magni 3+ to the Magni 3. The first thing that stood out to me was the absence of the issues with dynamic range compression or soundstage or the 'wooden' timbre of the original. Overall, quite a pleasant sounding amp, again (from memory) being warmer and more musical than the Atom.

Against the iFi nano BL, however, I found the Magni 3+ in conjunction with the Topping D50s to sound much less lifelike and refined. I found it interesting that lifelikeness was the very word you used in describing the ZEN CAN versus the Magnius. That, in fact, came across quite distinctly to me too in my comparison of the nano BL and Magni 3+. The nano BL, despite its much more limited output power, was simply more natural sounding; airier, lighter, more delicate and refined, especially in the highs. I strongly preferred the nano BL in this instance with both IEMs and headphones (although I do want to caveat here that I only owned low-impedance, sensitive headphones at the time).

Disappointingly, as with the Magni 3, I experienced the same issue with getting enough volume out of the Magni 3+.

ZEN CAN

Finally, the ZEN CAN. I've owned these twice, and they're also my primary amp at the moment.

Funnily enough, I had read your impressions on Hifiguides at the time I first owned the amp, and some of the criticisms you noted in fact contributed to my selling the CAN.

I absolutely love how the ZEN CAN sounds, in particularly its lifelikeness (as I've mentioned a few times now), its naturalness, airiness, refinement, and wonderfully spacious soundstage, particularly with the GTO filter.

I currently have the ZEN CAN alongside the Atom, and find the ZEN CAN again to offer an incomparably natural, analog tonality. The Atom, by comparison, sounds relatively digital, dry, and etched, with a much narrower soundstage. To its credit, it's incredibly precise and defined, but at the expense of musical enjoyment to my ears.

Two issues led me to sell my unit the first time I owned them:

1. A disturbing static/noise that occured when used with the balanced 4.4mm input and generic power supplies.
2. Inability to adequately power the DT 990 600 ohm I owned at the time.

On point 1, the ZEN CAN I first purchased was amongst the first 1,000 units sold, and therefore came with the iPower. At the time, I was using the CAN in conjunction with the ZEN DAC, and iFi had yet to release their own 4.4mm interconnect. I purchased two separate 4.4mm interconnects and, disappointingly, noticed a static-like noise and whine at higher volumes or with sensitive IEMs. Not a buzz or a hum as in a ground loop, but crackling or whining or simply... static. I also discovered that when used with generic, non-noise suppressing power supplies, the noise would worsen to to the extent that the amp was basically unserviceable. I'll keep this short here, but what I subsequently discovered on my second purchase of the ZEN stack was that the noise issue was directly related to the 4.4mm interconnects used. With iFi's own 4.4mm cable, there was no noise whatsoever, even when used with generic power supplies.

On point 2, the first time I owned the ZEN DAC + CAN, I used the 4.4mm input along with the iPower on the ZEN CAN and a third-party interconnect. With this setup, the stack had no issue driving my 250 ohm Beyerdynamic DT 150 and DT 1770 with great ease with the SE output. I listen to a lot of bass-heavy music, and found both the dynamics, volume output, and bass slam and power to be fantastic. However, where I did experience an issue was with the 600 ohm DT 990, which I had balanced modded, and used with the 4.4mm headphone out. There, with the most sub-bass heavy tracks at high volumes, I notice the bass bottoming out, or distorting. In tandem with point 1, this led to me selling the ZEN CAN.

I subsequently re-purchased the Atom and a Gustard H10, but found that neither provided the sound I had enjoyed so much with the ZEN CAN. So I gave them a second go, since the noise was a small issue when used with the iPower, and I had no plans to own planars or 600 ohm headphones again. I purchased them alongside the ZEN DAC V2. This time around, however, I used iFi's own 4.4mm cable and the generic, stock power supply that came with the CAN, since the iPower promotion had ran its course. At the same time, I had picked up a pair of 600 ohm DT 880's which I came across used for a fair price. Surprisingly enough, even out of the SE output, I found the CAN to power them incredibly well, both in terms of volume output and bass quality (here I mean near-ear tickling sub-bass levels), with absolutely zero issues with the same tracks that I had with the DT 990. Nothing else in my chain or living circumstances had changed during this time, with the only differences being limited to the 4.4mm interconnect and power supply used.

So I'm a happy camper now with the ZEN CAN (although your impressions of the Asgard 3 are very encouraging, and I'd be very keen to hear them...).

Again, a great many thanks for starting this thread, and hopefully these posts help someone out!
 
Last edited:
May 29, 2021 at 9:08 AM Post #6 of 10
Hi @WaveTheory, this is a wonderful effort, and deserves much more attention!

I hope you don't mind me adding some of my thoughts, having owned three of the amplifiers in your review - the JDS Atom, Cavalli Liquid Spark, and the ZEN CAN - in addition to the Schiit Magni 3 and 3+.

My experiences have diverged in some ways from yours. I'll summarise my impressions briefly below:

Liquid Spark

I'll touch on the Liquid Spark first. While I did not have the opportunity to compare them to the Atom directly, I owned the latter prior to and after selling the Spark within a a short window of time. To my ears, the Spark was clearly the smoother and warmer amp, and perhaps a better pairing depending on other components in ones chain. I enjoyed its tonality enough, but the distinct drop in clarity and transparency compared to the Atom led me to selling it and re-purchasing the Atom.

Of the Atom, Spark, ZEN CAN, and Magni 3 and 3+, I found the Spark to have the most conventionally 'musical' and tube-like sound.

JDS Atom / Magni 3

I've owned the Atom thrice (yes) and currently have one along with the ZEN CAN. I also I had the opportunity to compare the Atom directly to the Magni 3 (not 3+). As with the Liquid Spark, I found the Atom to be the more technical unit: more precise, more detailed, but also leaner and less full-bodied.

In comparison to the Atom, I found the Magni 3 fuller-bodied, denser, with greater solidity, if you will. What I didn't like, however, was its jarringly 'wooden' tonality, almost as if Schiit were aiming for a more organic tonality, but not really succeeding, instead resulting in a self-conscious tuning that could not but attention to itself. Macrodynamics were also limited, and soundstage was a little odd. There was a clear perception of space between images, but the entire scene was played out on a very small scale.

I also had issues with scratchy volume pots and with getting enough volume (yes) from two separate units, despite their high output measurements on ASR.

In this instance, the Atom was a clear preference. I would say that neither is outstanding in terms of soundstage.

Magni 3+

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to compare the Magni 3+ to the original 3, or any of the other amps listed above. I did have an iFi nano iDSD Black Label at the time, and having owned four iFi products, feel quite confident in saying that they tend to have a very consistent sound signature, or 'house sound'.

I much preferred the Magni 3+ to the Magni 3. The first thing that stood out to me was the absence of the issues with dynamic range compression or soundstage or the 'wooden' timbre of the original. Overall, quite a pleasant sounding amp, again (from memory) being warmer and more musical than the Atom.

Against the iFi nano BL, however, I found the Magni 3+ in conjunction with the Topping D50s to sound much less lifelike and refined. I found it interesting that lifelikeness was the very word you used in describing the ZEN CAN versus the Magnius. That, in fact, came across quite distinctly to me too in my comparison of the nano BL and Magni 3+. The nano BL, despite its much more limited output power, was simply more natural sounding; airier, lighter, more delicate and refined, especially in the highs. I strongly preferred the nano BL in this instance with both IEMs and headphones (although I do want to caveat here that I only owned low-impedance, sensitive headphones at the time).

Disappointingly, as with the Magni 3, I experienced the same issue with getting enough volume out of the Magni 3+.

ZEN CAN

Finally, the ZEN CAN. I've owned these twice, and they're also my primary amp at the moment.

Funnily enough, I had read your impressions on Hifiguides at the time I first owned the amp, and some of the criticisms you noted in fact contributed to my selling the CAN.

I absolutely love how the ZEN CAN sounds, in particularly its lifelikeness (as I've mentioned a few times), its naturalness, airiness, refinement, and wonderfully spacious soundstage, particularly with the GTO filter.

I currently have the ZEN CAN alongside the Atom, and find the ZEN CAN again to offer an incommensurably natural, analog tonality. The Atom, by comparison, sounds relatively digital, dry, and etched, with a much narrower soundstage. To its credit, its incredibly precise and defined, but at the expense of musical enjoyment to my ears.

Two issues led me to sell my unit the first time I owned them:

1. A disturbing static/noise that occured when used with the balanced 4.4mm input and generic power supplies.
2. Inability to adequately power the DT 990 600 ohm I owned at the time.

On point 1, the ZEN CAN I first purchased was amongst the first 1,000 units sold, and therefore came with the iPower. At the time, I was using the CAN in conjunction with the ZEN DAC, and iFi had yet to release their own 4.4mm interconnect. I purchased two separate 4.4mm interconnects and, disappointingly, noticed a static-like noise and whine at higher volumes or with sensitive IEMs. Not a buzz or a hum as in a ground loop, but crackling or whining or simply... static. I also discovered that when used with generic, non-noise suppressing power supplies, the noise would worsen to to the extent that the amp was basically unserviceable. I'll keep this short here, but what I subsequently discovered on my second purchase of the ZEN stack was that the noise issue was directly related to the 4.4mm interconnects used. With iFi's own 4.4mm cable, there was no noise whatsoever, even when used with generic power supplies.

On point 2, the first time I owned the ZEN DAC + CAN, I used the 4.4mm input along with the iPower on the ZEN CAN and a third-party interconnect. With this setup, the stack had no issue driving my 250 ohm Beyerdynamic DT 150 and DT 1770 with great ease with the SE output. I listen to a lot of bass-heavy music, and found both the dynamics, volume output, and bass slam and power to be fantastic. However, where I did experience an issue was with the 600 ohm DT 990, which I had balanced modded, and used with the 4.4mm headphone out. There, with the most sub-bass heavy tracks at high volumes, I notice the bass bottoming out, or distorting. In tandem with point 1, this led to me selling the ZEN CAN.

I subsequently re-purchased the Atom and a Gustard H10, but found that neither provided the sound I had enjoyed so much with the ZEN CAN. So I gave them a second go, since the noise was a small issue when used with the iPower, and I had no plans to own planars or 600 ohm headphones again. I purchased them alongside the ZEN DAC V2. This time around, however, I used iFi's own 4.4mm cable and the generic, stock power supply that came with the CAN, since the iPower promotion had ran its course. At the same time, I had picked up a pair of 600 ohm DT 880's which popped I found used for a fair price. Surprisingly enough, even out of the SE output, I found the CAN to power them incredibly well, both in terms of volume output and bass quality (here I mean near-ear tickling sub-bass levels), with absolutely zero issues with the same tracks that I had with the DT 990. Nothing else in my chain or living circumstances had changed during this time, with the only differences being limited to the 4.4mm interconnect and power supply used.

So I'm a happy camper now with the ZEN CAN (although your impressions of the Asgard 3 are very encouraging, and I'd be very keen to hear them...).

Again, a great many thanks for starting this thread, and hopefully these posts help someone out!
HI! Thanks for the feedback. I don't mind at all if you or anyone else contributes thoughts on budget amps in this thread. I put it here in large part so that could happen.

I'm glad you're enjoying your Zen CAN :thumbsup:
 
May 29, 2021 at 4:24 PM Post #7 of 10
Hi @WaveTheory, this is a wonderful effort, and deserves much more attention!

I hope you don't mind me adding some of my thoughts, having owned three of the amplifiers in your review - the JDS Atom, Cavalli Liquid Spark, and the ZEN CAN - in addition to the Schiit Magni 3 and 3+.

My experiences have diverged in some ways from yours. I'll summarise my impressions briefly below:

Liquid Spark

I'll touch on the Liquid Spark first. While I did not have the opportunity to compare them to the Atom directly, I owned the latter prior to and after selling the Spark within a a short window of time. To my ears, the Spark was clearly the smoother and warmer amp, and perhaps a better pairing depending on other components in ones chain. I enjoyed its tonality enough, but the distinct drop in clarity and transparency compared to the Atom led me to selling it and re-purchasing the Atom.

Of the Atom, Spark, ZEN CAN, and Magni 3 and 3+, I found the Spark to have the most conventionally 'musical' and tube-like sound.

JDS Atom / Magni 3

I've owned the Atom thrice (yes) and currently have one along with the ZEN CAN. I also I had the opportunity to compare the Atom directly to the Magni 3 (not 3+). As with the Liquid Spark, I found the Atom to be the more technical unit: more precise, more detailed, but also leaner and less full-bodied.

In comparison to the Atom, I found the Magni 3 fuller-bodied, denser, with greater solidity, if you will. What I didn't like, however, was its jarringly 'wooden' tonality, almost as if Schiit were aiming for a more organic tonality, but not really succeeding, instead resulting in a self-conscious tuning that could not but attention to itself. Macrodynamics were also limited, and soundstage was a little odd. There was a clear perception of space between images, but the entire scene was played out on a very small scale.

I also had issues with scratchy volume pots and with getting enough volume (yes) from two separate units, despite their high output measurements on ASR.

In this instance, the Atom was a clear preference. I would say that neither is outstanding in terms of soundstage.

Magni 3+

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to compare the Magni 3+ to the original 3, or any of the other amps listed above. I did have an iFi nano iDSD Black Label at the time, and having owned four iFi products, feel quite confident in saying that they tend to have a very consistent sound signature, or 'house sound'.

I much preferred the Magni 3+ to the Magni 3. The first thing that stood out to me was the absence of the issues with dynamic range compression or soundstage or the 'wooden' timbre of the original. Overall, quite a pleasant sounding amp, again (from memory) being warmer and more musical than the Atom.

Against the iFi nano BL, however, I found the Magni 3+ in conjunction with the Topping D50s to sound much less lifelike and refined. I found it interesting that lifelikeness was the very word you used in describing the ZEN CAN versus the Magnius. That, in fact, came across quite distinctly to me too in my comparison of the nano BL and Magni 3+. The nano BL, despite its much more limited output power, was simply more natural sounding; airier, lighter, more delicate and refined, especially in the highs. I strongly preferred the nano BL in this instance with both IEMs and headphones (although I do want to caveat here that I only owned low-impedance, sensitive headphones at the time).

Disappointingly, as with the Magni 3, I experienced the same issue with getting enough volume out of the Magni 3+.

ZEN CAN

Finally, the ZEN CAN. I've owned these twice, and they're also my primary amp at the moment.

Funnily enough, I had read your impressions on Hifiguides at the time I first owned the amp, and some of the criticisms you noted in fact contributed to my selling the CAN.

I absolutely love how the ZEN CAN sounds, in particularly its lifelikeness (as I've mentioned a few times now), its naturalness, airiness, refinement, and wonderfully spacious soundstage, particularly with the GTO filter.

I currently have the ZEN CAN alongside the Atom, and find the ZEN CAN again to offer an incomparably natural, analog tonality. The Atom, by comparison, sounds relatively digital, dry, and etched, with a much narrower soundstage. To its credit, it's incredibly precise and defined, but at the expense of musical enjoyment to my ears.

Two issues led me to sell my unit the first time I owned them:

1. A disturbing static/noise that occured when used with the balanced 4.4mm input and generic power supplies.
2. Inability to adequately power the DT 990 600 ohm I owned at the time.

On point 1, the ZEN CAN I first purchased was amongst the first 1,000 units sold, and therefore came with the iPower. At the time, I was using the CAN in conjunction with the ZEN DAC, and iFi had yet to release their own 4.4mm interconnect. I purchased two separate 4.4mm interconnects and, disappointingly, noticed a static-like noise and whine at higher volumes or with sensitive IEMs. Not a buzz or a hum as in a ground loop, but crackling or whining or simply... static. I also discovered that when used with generic, non-noise suppressing power supplies, the noise would worsen to to the extent that the amp was basically unserviceable. I'll keep this short here, but what I subsequently discovered on my second purchase of the ZEN stack was that the noise issue was directly related to the 4.4mm interconnects used. With iFi's own 4.4mm cable, there was no noise whatsoever, even when used with generic power supplies.

On point 2, the first time I owned the ZEN DAC + CAN, I used the 4.4mm input along with the iPower on the ZEN CAN and a third-party interconnect. With this setup, the stack had no issue driving my 250 ohm Beyerdynamic DT 150 and DT 1770 with great ease with the SE output. I listen to a lot of bass-heavy music, and found both the dynamics, volume output, and bass slam and power to be fantastic. However, where I did experience an issue was with the 600 ohm DT 990, which I had balanced modded, and used with the 4.4mm headphone out. There, with the most sub-bass heavy tracks at high volumes, I notice the bass bottoming out, or distorting. In tandem with point 1, this led to me selling the ZEN CAN.

I subsequently re-purchased the Atom and a Gustard H10, but found that neither provided the sound I had enjoyed so much with the ZEN CAN. So I gave them a second go, since the noise was a small issue when used with the iPower, and I had no plans to own planars or 600 ohm headphones again. I purchased them alongside the ZEN DAC V2. This time around, however, I used iFi's own 4.4mm cable and the generic, stock power supply that came with the CAN, since the iPower promotion had ran its course. At the same time, I had picked up a pair of 600 ohm DT 880's which I came across used for a fair price. Surprisingly enough, even out of the SE output, I found the CAN to power them incredibly well, both in terms of volume output and bass quality (here I mean near-ear tickling sub-bass levels), with absolutely zero issues with the same tracks that I had with the DT 990. Nothing else in my chain or living circumstances had changed during this time, with the only differences being limited to the 4.4mm interconnect and power supply used.

So I'm a happy camper now with the ZEN CAN (although your impressions of the Asgard 3 are very encouraging, and I'd be very keen to hear them...).

Again, a great many thanks for starting this thread, and hopefully these posts help someone out!

After all your adventures all I can write is: enjoy your ZEN :D

Also, lovely work @WaveTheory !
 
Last edited:
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/people/IFi-audio/61558986775162/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@iFiaudiochannel comms@ifi-audio.com
Dec 12, 2021 at 5:08 PM Post #9 of 10
so youre saying the zen can sounds bad with say a 300ohm, 6xx..... I dont get the comment on the bad sound quality below 100hz either. I can think of quite a few iems or headphones the zen can with x bass on is the best sounding of any amp I have tried. I own atom+, archel2 gmr, zen can, sh9, a30pro, l30, l50, nfb1 , tk2, gryphon, go blu, hip dac, e1da power dac, cayin ru6, aune x1s gt, ocean bravo, xudoo mt604. I actually returned the spark ( sounded terrible ) and the entry level Schiit, just wasn't that good. I rank the zen can as the best amp in the 150-200 range , but its not for every headphone or iem.
 
Dec 13, 2021 at 9:49 AM Post #10 of 10
so youre saying the zen can sounds bad with say a 300ohm, 6xx..... I dont get the comment on the bad sound quality below 100hz either. I can think of quite a few iems or headphones the zen can with x bass on is the best sounding of any amp I have tried. I own atom+, archel2 gmr, zen can, sh9, a30pro, l30, l50, nfb1 , tk2, gryphon, go blu, hip dac, e1da power dac, cayin ru6, aune x1s gt, ocean bravo, xudoo mt604. I actually returned the spark ( sounded terrible ) and the entry level Schiit, just wasn't that good. I rank the zen can as the best amp in the 150-200 range , but its not for every headphone or iem.
We didn't get any complaints about ZEN CAN's performance with high impedance cans either, but it's all fine. And thanks a lot for rating it this high on your list :beerchug:
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/people/IFi-audio/61558986775162/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@iFiaudiochannel comms@ifi-audio.com

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top