Geshelli j2

Apr 23, 2023 at 1:44 AM Post #31 of 251
Waiting for the new-new one with the AKM4499 chip, however that turns out. That plus the ugpraded opamps, I'm very interested to see how it turns out

I agree with others though in wishing it had upgraded features, like a display, and pre-amp volume control would also put it over
 
May 1, 2023 at 5:44 PM Post #32 of 251
This is interesting. I was contacted by Burson Audio and asked if I would be willing to try out their V6 Vivid op-amp in my J2 (for free) in exchange for posting my findings here. Anyone else? (This forum must be place they saw that I had ordered a J2.) The op-amp and tiny extension cables arrived today. Sadly, the J2 I ordered a month ago still is not here. Will give it a try after I have enough hours on the J2 to be familiar with how it sounds, even though I have no experience tinkering with the innards of my gear. Note, my J2 is going to be the socketed version with the AKM chip and Sparkos op-amp, so it should be a fair fight.
 
May 17, 2023 at 1:32 PM Post #33 of 251
I'm tossing up between Muses01 and V6 Vivids for the J2, so I'll be interested in your impressions.
 
May 27, 2023 at 10:15 AM Post #34 of 251
Finally got a shipping notice for my J2S after waiting 8 weeks! I was starting to worry!
 
Jun 8, 2023 at 3:22 PM Post #35 of 251
I posted this in Hifiguides this morning and love Geshelli so much that I figured the move was to post here too to reach people that might nit be going to both parties.

The J2 AKM has been in my system longer than any other dac. I love it so much. Bang for the buck it is unmatched to my ears and for me it's all I need, do I want more, of course I do, but for my needs it's perfect. I do have a much more expensive Audio-GD - R7 MK2 dac in my analytical headphone set up that is around 10x the cost of the J2. As to be expected there is a sizable difference in what I hear but it is not 10x better, not even close. Most of this also depends on the headphones I am using and amp I am using. Amp wise I have the AUDIO-GD HE-9 LE amp paired to that R7 MK2 and doing a comparison with the J2AKM set up to that amp there is for sure a difference but to me I feel like it's closer to 4x difference at most. Maybe. Again, what headphones am I listening on, that's the big tell. To be clear, I absolutely do feel like the Audio GD set up I have is completely worth the price. It is incredible. Transcendent at times. I do not think it is over priced, I DO think the J2 is vastly under priced.

I find that I need to remind myself to not forget that the point is to have fun. I have not heard the J2 ESS but I'm curious if I can really tell the difference. I can tell a difference in dacs but it also requires massive price jumps into HIGHLY resolving equipment so in the end we end up paying higher prices for not only the DAC. So to my ears in my desktop and TV system, the J2 really is all I need and I love love love it. We of course want more a lot of the time, that's the game, but need...J2 is awesome.

I have had the J2 set up in my desk top system connected to a LTA MZ2 speaker/headphone amp and as I type this I am watching Netflix Dark on my TV connected to it and it is connected to the Akatika PR102 and GT104 amp. I recently had the Denafrips Pontus II set up for a couple months in my desktop set up and then in my TV set up as well and yes there is a difference, the parts used in the topography of the $1800 Pontus 2 12th edition is for sure going to be different enough to make an audible change from the J2 that I can hear but the question is, is the difference 6x better than the J2 AKM to support the price difference? F&%K no, not even close. Please don't misunderstand me, I AM saying there is a difference but we also need to consider all the parts of our systems and if all the parts a set up to be transparent or revealing enough to show all the differences. Essentially, are we trying to put a Porche engine in a Honda Civic. Stranger things have been done but...why? Why waste money on that when we can save up and eventually, years down the road, buy the entire Porche in which all the components are literally created to work in harmony with that engine. Or just chill with the Civit and save a ton of money on gas and maintenance. That is how I look at my stereo systems. The speakers I am using in my desktop are Omega Compact Alnico and the speakers for my TV set up are GR Research XLS Encore with all the bells and whistles. Both very good revealing speakers and still the difference is not worth the 6x price tag. I'm not even sure that I heard a 2x difference. Maybe on IEMs and sensitive headphones on that LTA MZ2. The J2 AKM is so so so good for the fun factor in my systems and for me really great even for like 80%ish of the analytical listening, so if I want to get away from the work I am doing at my desk and don't want to go into my listening room for the Audio GD gear, I'm still golden.

Over the last few months I have fully committed to keeping the J2AKM in my TV set up I am looking to find a dac to pull into my desktop set up that does what it does at the same price point. I have been contemplating just buying a second one. I had also been thinking about the Schiit Modi Multibit 2 after hearing stories of people with extremely expensive systems using it in their systems and loving it and Schiit basically builds for the fun factor. Then this J2AKM Socketed comes out. Going back to the TV system I mentioned before, the Akitika PR 102 preamp is opamp based and set up so that when I soldered all the parts in the opamps, just like the new J2, are in sockets so I can roll opamps. The changes that I heard when rolling opamps in my two channel system were incredible. The opamps are not cheap but, bang for the buck, the best and most drastic change I have heard in my system. THIS is what attracts me to the J2 socketed. I have had many amps and dacs over the years. Both solid state and tube. The opamp changes I heard are just as big as, if not bigger, than the changes I have heard from tube rolling or any other tweaks we love to pour money into. I do fully understand that my profound opamp rolling experiences have been only in the amplifier, not the dac world, world but the dac signal is still amplified with the opamps and to consider that at about $300 I can purchase the foundation of a dac I already LOVE and know for sure is the best bang for the buck I have personally experienced, and that I can then potentially tailor the sound to my liking even more is just amazing to me. It could be the rare marriage of what I need and all I want in the audio world. And this to me is why the hew Geshelli amplifier is 2x the cost of the previous one. The tone controls are awesome but that ability to tailor the actual amplification of the signal...at that price point...Geshelli knows how to party. That's for sure.
 
Jul 5, 2023 at 11:46 AM Post #36 of 251
I'm tossing up between Muses01 and V6 Vivids for the J2, so I'll be interested in your impressions.
I have the J2S AKM4493 edition (not the 4499)

Love it. Currently have the Sparkos SS2590 Pro in for the RCA output, and MUSES01 x 2 for the XLR outputs.

Both outputs are connected to a preamp with volume control so I can switch between the two.

The SS2590 has a cleaner, sharper sound and the MUSES01 warmer, less fatiguing.

Also waiting for the AK4499 version to add little bit of that R2R DAC flavour.

Also plan to pick up a set of Orange opamps and the MUSES05 converted to dual dip8 for more DIY fun.

Also feeding the output to a budget FOSI Audio V3 amp with dual Sparkos SS3602s in it.
 
Jul 5, 2023 at 7:25 PM Post #37 of 251
bit confused, did you just nab some MUSES01's on mouser and pop em in?
 
Jul 5, 2023 at 10:43 PM Post #38 of 251
bit confused, did you just nab some MUSES01's on mouser and pop em in?
Just bought them from Amazon and popped them in.

Also tried MUSES02. They are slightly more resolving. In my setup I couldn't really distinguish the MUSES02 from the SS2590. To have more variety, I put the MUSES01 back in which has more a more noticeable difference to the SS2590.
 
Jul 6, 2023 at 4:01 PM Post #39 of 251
Just bought them from Amazon and popped them in.

Also tried MUSES02. They are slightly more resolving. In my setup I couldn't really distinguish the MUSES02 from the SS2590. To have more variety, I put the MUSES01 back in which has more a more noticeable difference to the SS2590.
wow had no idea the J2S was so modular, so I can just order the cheapest opamp and pop in one of these MUSEs or anything else eh? thats so cool
 
Jul 6, 2023 at 4:21 PM Post #40 of 251
Just bought them from Amazon and popped them in.

Also tried MUSES02. They are slightly more resolving. In my setup I couldn't really distinguish the MUSES02 from the SS2590. To have more variety, I put the MUSES01 back in which has more a more noticeable difference to the SS2590.
Yes, the "S" stands for the "socketed" version.

It has 3 sockets for a dual dip-8 op amps.

2 of them are for the balanced XLR output stage and 1 is for the single ended RCA output stage.

Just proceed with caution, you can easily damage something if you don't ground yourself, or insight the opamps the wrong way.
 
Sep 20, 2023 at 10:33 PM Post #41 of 251
Anyone have an idea of when the AKM 4499 J2 is going to be released?
 
Sep 21, 2023 at 1:03 AM Post #43 of 251
Oh yeah
 
Sep 21, 2023 at 9:19 AM Post #44 of 251
Very soon next month I believe, worth the upgrade over J2 4493
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Sep 23, 2023 at 8:31 AM Post #45 of 251
I wonder why it can take all these discretes but it can't handle an OPA1612.
 

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