Frequency Response
Sep 27, 2001 at 7:46 PM Post #16 of 27
I have the CD3000s, and although I've never heard the CD2000s, it's generally considered around here that they are far inferior to the 3000s. As a matter of fact, most people say that Sony screwed up when they replaced the CD1700s with the 2000s. If you do a search here, you'll find a lot of info on both headphones, particularly the 3000s.
 
Sep 27, 2001 at 8:05 PM Post #17 of 27
You should totally ignore the frequency response specs from the manufacturer, as it is worthless information. In the example given for the two Sony phones, I bet they were made up by two different people (probably in marketing) and that's why they are so different. The specs, if they are true, means that they will respond to those frequencies, but nothing more. Maybe they respond by burning out if you give it enough power. You won't hear it but maybe you'll see the smoke.

Anyone wanting information to make choices on headphones should ignore what the manufacturer says, and it doesn't matter which manufacturer, and start reading the reviews here. Then after assembling a list of candidates, start listening themselves, either at stores, through friends or ordering from places that offer returns.
 
Sep 27, 2001 at 8:12 PM Post #18 of 27
Those frequency response specs are a form of advertising, a selling pitch, but essentially meaningless by themselves as raw data on the spec sheet. They just "improve" as you go up in price.

Typical:

$100 model 20-20,000hkz
$200 model 18-22,000khz
$300 model 15-25,000khz
$400 model 15-30,000khz

$1000 model 1-180,000khz
 
Sep 27, 2001 at 8:26 PM Post #19 of 27
If you trust frequency response stats too much...than you would have to believe that cheap earbuds are the absolute best at delivering ultra-low bass.

BTW the most recent V6's claim 5-30hz frequency response...and I am very sure these are the same phones of long ago that didn't tout such broad numbers. Sony probably up'd the specs after realizing they gave such good specs to their $10 dollar earbuds.

You know the "Design and specifications subject to change without notice" thing. Probably a marketing guy came up with that one.
 
Sep 28, 2001 at 2:31 AM Post #21 of 27
Before I bought Sony MDR-CD3000, I also had MDR-CD999. From the technical specs, CD999 which offers wider frequency response than MDR-CD3000, but both have different sound characteristics. Although CD999 have wider freq response, it sounds duller and less bass than CD3000.

So IMHO, good headphones is not just about frequency response, but how it's built, the materials and finally, the most important element is our own taste of sound that we like.
 
Sep 28, 2001 at 3:13 AM Post #22 of 27
Quote:

$1000 model 1-180,000khz


That reminds me...

$10,000 model

7-100000hz (-10dB)
14-85000hz (-6dB)
25-75000hz (-3dB)

Now those are specs
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But that is quite interesting, the great Orpheus cannot hit 20hz without roll off... the hell?!!??
 
Sep 28, 2001 at 11:45 AM Post #23 of 27
Those specs essentially tell you nothing. What's important is not the extreme LF and HF (neither of which can be heard anyway) but rather the smoothness of the overall response and particularly the midrange. That can be determined only by careful, unstressed listening. My advice: if you're in the USA, go to a pro-audio megastore such as Guitar Center (they have more variety of headphones), and put everything you are interested in on a credit card. Return all but the one you like best.

NP: Fastball, "Out of My Head"
 
Sep 28, 2001 at 3:01 PM Post #24 of 27
Chych, from what I know, your ears can't even hear 20Hz. besides, very little music give you any need to have bass that extends to 20Hz. there's just no relevant information down there.
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Flat sound to 40Hz is probably all most people need.
 
Sep 28, 2001 at 3:16 PM Post #25 of 27
I am clarifying my statement that 20-20k of "musical" sound quality is waaaaaaay better than 5-30k of crap. I reeeeaaally meant that 40-16k of "musical" sound quality on a 20-20k device is waaaaaaay better than 40-16k of crap on a 5-30k device.
 
Oct 2, 2001 at 11:06 PM Post #26 of 27
Quote:

Originally posted by pedxing
I have lost the link to the Headroom website with the frequency response graphcs. Does anyone know where the newer website with the graphs is? I can only find the old website. Why do they have two websites?


http://www.headphone.com/ProductsHea...dphoneList.asp

The big list....

BTW headroom has at least three sites...
 
Oct 3, 2001 at 4:07 AM Post #27 of 27
Buzzlight,

Check out the Denon AH-D950 at www.audioreview.com and www.epinions.com.

If you like deep bass and crisp highs, plant your head between a pair of these.

These retail for $165.00, but at www.djmart.com you'll find them at $119.95 which is the lowest price on the planet.
 

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