[shomie911]

That Sunwayman is a nice looking light.  Did you guys notice that the XM-L is same brightness as SST-50 using only half the current?  Cool!
ck out the M30R, using only 3xCR123s:  Note, the pic says SST-50 LED, but the light is identical, but for the fact the XM-L runs for twice as long as the SST-50.
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1. 800 Lumens (1hr)
2. 240 Lumens (2.5 hrs)
3. 50 Lumens (16 hrs)
4. Strobe mode: 800 Lumens

 

I was considering the M30R, but the M40C has nearly the same output and throw with the addition of secondary LEDs, while being only slightly larger. Better battery life as well.

The M40C is actually going to be released in an XM-L version pretty soon, but they may be getting rid of the secondary LEDs to fit a larger reflector. Personally, I think the secondary LEDs make the light more versatile and the beam shape is supposedly very useful.

The M30R's still on my wanted list though, since it only takes three CR123A batteries and puts out more light than a Surefire M6 in half the size. Crazy.

 

[shane55]

Arrrrrrrgh.
I knew I shouldn't have ventured into this forum. I knew it, I knew it.
My wallet just shriveled up inside itself.

 

[kwkarth]

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That Sunwayman is a nice looking light.  Did you guys notice that the XM-L is same brightness as SST-50 using only half the current?  Cool!
ck out the M30R, using only 3xCR123s:  Note, the pic says SST-50 LED, but the light is identical, but for the fact the XM-L runs for twice as long as the SST-50.
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1. 800 Lumens (1hr)
2. 240 Lumens (2.5 hrs)
3. 50 Lumens (16 hrs)
4. Strobe mode: 800 Lumens

I was considering the M30R, but the M40C has nearly the same output and throw with the addition of secondary LEDs, while being only slightly larger. Better battery life as well.

The M40C is actually going to be released in an XM-L version pretty soon, but they may be getting rid of the secondary LEDs to fit a larger reflector. Personally, I think the secondary LEDs make the light more versatile and the beam shape is supposedly very useful.

The M30R's still on my wanted list though, since it only takes three CR123A batteries and puts out more light than a Surefire M6 in half the size. Crazy.

Because the M40 uses 4 CR123s while the M30 only uses 3 CR123s, it's giving you what it does with 25% less power & cost.
 

 

[kwkarth]

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Arrrrrrrgh.
I knew I shouldn't have ventured into this forum. I knew it, I knew it.
My wallet just shriveled up inside itself.

SATW, SATW, SATW...  (Sorry About The Wallet.)
 

 

[kwkarth]

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I was considering the M30R, but the M40C has nearly the same output and throw with the addition of secondary LEDs, while being only slightly larger. Better battery life as well.  

The M40C is actually going to be released in an XM-L version pretty soon, but they may be getting rid of the secondary LEDs to fit a larger reflector. Personally, I think the secondary LEDs make the light more versatile and the beam shape is supposedly very useful.

The M30R's still on my wanted list though, since it only takes three CR123A batteries and puts out more light than a Surefire M6 in half the size. Crazy.

A 4x CR123 would be really nice with the XM-L... over 1000lm at the emitter!  I have an EagleTac M2XC4 MkII and I love the 2x2 CR123 configuration.
 
 

 

[kwkarth]

As for a compact tactical light (small enough for edc belt carry) I have to mention Elzetta lights.  Quality is superlative.  100% American designed, manufactured, and made.

http://www.pts-flashlights.com/products/product.aspx?pid=172-173-6699
Built like a battleship.  Their performance is great.

 

[shomie911]

A 4x CR123 would be really nice with the XM-L... over 1000lm at the emitter!  I have an EagleTac M2XC4 MkII and I love the 2x2 CR123 configuration.
 
 

2 x 18650 are even better! More runtime than primary CR123A's and they are rechargeable as well.

I just got the M40C in the mail today and all I have to say is...wow. I've owned some of the higher-end Surefires, RA/HDS, and custom lights, but the machining and design of this light is just phenomenal. I am very impressed with Sunwayman. Can't wait to see how they evolve in the future.

 

[shane55]

Well I probably should have asked this sooner, and there is probably a reference somewhere, but...
Since all three arrived today (whoohoo!!)...
What do you recommend for batteries?
 
CR123A's (or I guess 18650's) are used in two of the ones I bought.
AA's are used in the other.
 
Woud eneloops AA's be the rechargeable of choice? If not which?
 
How about the CR123A's... any reputable brand like Energizer?
 
Thanks.
 
BTW. of the three, the best impression so far is the Olight M20-S2. Wow. This is a very nice piece of machinery. Great functionality, etc. Impressive.
More later, of course.
 
 
 

 

[kwkarth]

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Well I probably should have asked this sooner, and there is probably a reference somewhere, but...
Since all three arrived today (whoohoo!!)...
What do you recommend for batteries?
 
CR123A's (or I guess 18650's) are used in two of the ones I bought.
AA's are used in the other.
 
Woud eneloops AA's be the rechargeable of choice? If not which?
 
How about the CR123A's... any reputable brand like Energizer?
 
Thanks.
 
BTW. of the three, the best impression so far is the Olight M20-S2. Wow. This is a very nice piece of machinery. Great functionality, etc. Impressive.
More later, of course.

Forget the 18650s for now that will come in time...

 
For CR123s, I've had good service from "Titanium" brand from Battery Junction, 4Sevens Brand from 4Sevens, Surefire from Surefire, RayoVac from Battery Junction, and others.  I generally go for best price among the brands I trust.  Most of the Major brands seem ok.  
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/pri-cr123a.html
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/cr123a-qty.html
 
http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=53&osCsid=753a71815064f2e88934e52cda7d4a41
 
http://www.surefire.com/Batteries
 
Battery Junction Titaniums win the bid right now at 90 cents a piece or less.  Yup, buy 'em by the box, they don't go stale for 10 years.
 
For rechargeable AA's The Sanyo Eneloop is the gold standard.  Do not waste your time or money on anything but LSD (Low Self Discharge) rechargeables.  RayoVac used to make some really good ones and when they closed them out at Fry's over a year ago, I bought dozens of them.  They work great.
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/eneloop-aa-4-pack-nimh-lsd.html
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/rayovac-aa-ld715.html
 
Get a good smart charger to treat your batteries right.
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/smart-best.html
 
http://www.batteryjunction.com/8800.html

 

[shane55]

Hey kwkarth.
Zowie. That's a lot of information to go through.
Greatly appreciated, and I'll report back after the quest. 

 
Thanks.

 

[Audio-Omega]

Do well known brands make rechargeable CR123 3 volt batteries ?  I have only seen "no name" brands.

 

[kwkarth]

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Do well known brands make rechargeable CR123 3 volt batteries ?  I have only seen "no name" brands.

Look at the links I posted.
 

 

[kwkarth]

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Look at the links I posted.

RCR123s have a very limited appeal.  Why may I ask are you interested in them?
 
 

 

[shane55]

And while we are on the subject, Sir...
What did you mean by "Forget the 18650s for now that will come in time...

"?
 
Hmm?

 

[Audio-Omega]

I prefer smaller pocket lights so those that use CR123 are more suitable and they are generally brighter than AA.  
 
I have checked those links, Panasonic, Energizer, SUREFIRE, and Duracell don't have rechargeable CR123.  May be I have missed something.