[petro]

im unexperienced with such things so i ask you all on forum:
if i rip an original cd on my pc in flac format
and after that burn that flac format from pc as an audio cd,
and after all i take that burned audio cd and rip it on my pc in flac format
and take this flac format to burn again a new audio cd
will that last audio cd be identicly like the first original cd and will it have identicly the same quality of sound like the original or not???

 

[zotjen]

As long as you keep it lossless, it should.

 

[Roseval]

Reading an audio CD (Redbook standard) is by design not necessarily bit perfect.
That is the reason why rippers like dbPoweramp employ al kind of trick to get a bit perfect rip including comparing the rip against the rip of others (AccurateRip).
In practice most of the time we do read every bit right but sometimes we don’t.
If you do a rip > burn > rip > burn > etc there is a small change that some bits will topple over.
 

 

[zotjen]

^ ^ ^
But that wouldn't change the sound quality (i.e. it would still be lossless) which is what I think the OP was asking.
 

 

[Roseval]

 A format might be lossless but if due to generation loss bits change their value, the original sound will change.
The procedure as proposed by Petro has a small risk of generation loss.
 

 

[petro]

roseval i didn t understand all what you ve written (im from croatia)
what do you mean by generation loss

 

[Roseval]

 
Generation loss is losing quality by making a copy of a copy of a copy etc.
Make a copy of a audio tape to another tape and you will hear a bit more noise.
Make a copy of this copy and the noise becomes loader, etc.
 
If you rip a CD to FLAC in principle you have exactly the same information in the FLAC as on the CD as FLAC is a lossless format.
In practice there might be small differences e.g scratches making it impossible to read the CD bit perfect.
Rippers like dbPoweramp check this by comparing your rip with the results of others.
If you repeat this often (rip – burn – rip the burned copy) there is a small change that the number of imperfect bits will increase.

 

[pixote]

so which is than the best software for cd-ripping ?
i agree with you roseval that when you make  a copy of a audio tape to another tape and you will hear a bit more noise. 
i rip cds in flac with jetaudio
when i rip a cd and then burn that flac and rip it again and burn that, you can here than a little bit more noise
is there any cd ripper which wont make a little big more noise by cd ripping?
should i use this dbPoweramp   m      
or accurate rip maybe???
for burning i use burrrn

 

[petro]

i burn with nero
which is the best programm to rip cds which wont make more noise
(if there exist such a programm)

 

[Brooko]

Quote:

i burn with nero
which is the best programm to rip cds which wont make more noise
(if there exist such a programm)

Have a look at EAC (exact audio copy).
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
 

 

[eaglerock]

when you make the cd use - type, burn it at slow speed and don't use the computer at the burning time and you should get the exact flacs.

 

[SonicBlast]

I'd recommend to try more universal and handy tool Audio Converter Studio for ripping CDs to any audio format. It helped me many times and might be useful for you as well. It's simple and intuitive even for inexperienced users and produces output files with perfect sound quality.