[FiiO Q5s Type C ‖ Q5s] Bluetooth DSD-capable Amplifier,AK4493x2,768k/32bit
Aug 22, 2019 at 12:18 AM Post #1,516 of 3,234
Heating up should not be any issue. All electronic equipments when working with load sure will have heat generation. Like those stereo or HT amp, when u are using it will also generate high heat. I suppose Fiio design the heat dissipation using the chasis and body as heat sink as mentioned above. If heat is an issue or you do not feel comfortable, mayb you can get a casing which 1 of the member mentioned before so you won't be directly contact with it when it is in your pocket. Initially i also feel very hot but after some time i am quite used to it now.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 12:26 AM Post #1,517 of 3,234
Yeah, I think heat is normal for FiiO DAPs in general (X5 III has the same characteristic). Not too worried about it.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 1:13 AM Post #1,518 of 3,234
Erm... How do I put this... I don't wanna spoil your argument guys, but I don't think that what gets warm in the Q5s is the amp. Like, the module itself is cool unless pushed to the max. It's probably the dual DACs. And they are some DACs alright. Just look at the battery numbers. Bluetooth : 9.5 hrs. Optical : 9.5 hrs. USB : 9.5 hrs. Line in : 24 hrs. See a pattern? The only time when the DACs aren't used, the battery life goes up 2.5x. Also, used with a line in, it stays mostly cool. So yeah, it's not a power thing. It's having a baller DAC setup.

As for the NX4, well, it's a great piece of kit, but it's no Q5s. Haven't heard it to compare, but a) I think it wouldn't really be able to match the Q5s for sound and b) the Q5s has ALL the features. Like, all of them.

Yes, very good point. It is not about amp but about dac. DAC chip take up tu 200mW per unit, and there are two of them. Other parts are not important for heat generation. Max temperature according chip datasheet is 85C. If the temperature of outside body is around 50C and more, inside is higher. As I said before, silicon chip will survive it, no problem. But what about battery?
This is the reason why I am interested in. Somebody said here : Fiio can replace it easily. Really? Any prove of this? Yesterday I found in other thread somebody asked Fiio for replacement battery - Fiio response was We don't have such batteries. I also asked Fiio if there is possibility to replace battery in Q1mkII. No response.

By the way, it is not good idea to recommend leather case to somebody who is afraid of high temperature. This recommendation makes things even worse without cooling. It is not about my burned fingers but about battery life.

My Q1mkII after 2 years has big problem with fast self discharging even when power is off. More than 200mAh per day. This device does not heat so much as Q5s. But battery is going to end. And it was not used very often.
 
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Aug 22, 2019 at 8:07 AM Post #1,519 of 3,234
Hi all

Just to share the DD case and Fiio storage box which i just received. The storage box fit Q5S nicely. Love the red leather.

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Aug 22, 2019 at 10:06 AM Post #1,520 of 3,234
Hi all

Just to share the DD case and Fiio storage box which i just received. The storage box fit Q5S nicely. Love the red leather.






The case, is it genuine leather or artificial leather? Its very nice.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:08 AM Post #1,521 of 3,234
Got my AM3D! Its very nice. Previous module had an issue for issue. This is much clean sounding! I really like it. In small ways it betters the AM3E. Tight Bass, clear and transparent sound with 3D space.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:13 AM Post #1,522 of 3,234
The case, is it genuine leather or artificial leather? Its very nice.

The page said it is leather. I can't really tell whether is it genuine or artificial. The storage box most likely should be genuine leather.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM Post #1,523 of 3,234
Got my AM3D! Its very nice. Previous module had an issue for issue. This is much clean sounding! I really like it. In small ways it betters the AM3E. Tight Bass, clear and transparent sound with 3D space.
Did you win it ?
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:38 AM Post #1,524 of 3,234
Yes I won it. Before winning I bought a module, which arrived defective. It had some bad connector with clicks and pops.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:41 AM Post #1,525 of 3,234
Yes I won it. Before winning I bought a module, which arrived defective. It had some bad connector with clicks and pops.
I won too i am still waiting. In wich country did you get deliverd. My tracking says its still oversea or air
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 10:51 AM Post #1,526 of 3,234
I won too i am still waiting. In wich country did you get deliverd. My tracking says its still oversea or air
I have sent you a PM.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 11:28 AM Post #1,527 of 3,234
You can get battieres if you look, what do you think - Fiio used some super special rare battery cell in their amps? As long as the voltage is correct and it can fit you're alright.

Fiio has sent me replacement batteries before. Try contacting fiio support directly yourself and don't panic.

Anyways in a couple of years you will get Q7ss mark 2 or whatever most likely. Enjoy your gear now. :wink:
Hi all

Just to share the DD case and Fiio storage box which i just received. The storage box fit Q5S nicely. Love the red leather.







If the case is real leather that's a very good price.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 11:34 AM Post #1,528 of 3,234
WM1A + Q5S/AM3D really shines! Very clean transparent sound!
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 11:43 AM Post #1,529 of 3,234
Yes, very good point. It is not about amp but about dac. DAC chip take up tu 200mW per unit, and there are two of them. Other parts are not important for heat generation. Max temperature according chip datasheet is 85C. If the temperature of outside body is around 50C and more, inside is higher. As I said before, silicon chip will survive it, no problem. But what about battery?
This is the reason why I am interested in. Somebody said here : Fiio can replace it easily. Really? Any prove of this? Yesterday I found in other thread somebody asked Fiio for replacement battery - Fiio response was We don't have such batteries. I also asked Fiio if there is possibility to replace battery in Q1mkII. No response.

By the way, it is not good idea to recommend leather case to somebody who is afraid of high temperature. This recommendation makes things even worse without cooling. It is not about my burned fingers but about battery life.

My Q1mkII after 2 years has big problem with fast self discharging even when power is off. More than 200mAh per day. This device does not heat so much as Q5s. But battery is going to end. And it was not used very often.

I said you could replace it, with a little bit of soldering skill. Of course you can get a battery for it, as long as the voltage is correct and it fits. You think fiio used a special rare battery?

Fiio sent me a replacement for my x3, at no cost. The best thing to do would be to contact fiio support directly yourself about your q1 and if you're really worried about heat killing a li poly battery- they are rated for normal usage up to 50 celcius and some newer ones 60 celcius. You could ask them about q5s.

I listened to mine last night for about 2 hours - it was sitting on my desktop and I have it balanced on high gain volume at 11 o'clock and it never even got warm to the touch- so maybe there are some defective ones.

Now I have had it get warm in my pocket, but as everything else ive had has gotten warm also. Unless it's weak like sansa clip+ or m0 or like I said before a Sony.

I don't sweat it.

If you were in US I would do you a square and replace the q1 battery for you if you paid for the cell and postage. I was an avionics specialist and an aircraft electrician.
 
Aug 22, 2019 at 11:52 AM Post #1,530 of 3,234
WM1A + Q5S/AM3D really shines! Very clean transparent sound!

I love that module. People say that an amp doesn't influenced the imaginary stage- well I beg to differ, if the stereo separation is better and you have cans that can produce a big wide 3d stage you can hear a difference.

Everything in am3d is spread out more and seems to extend way out of your head like sp1000 or wm1z and the placement is not only wide but deep, making it very easy to place instruments in 3d space, the effect on am3d is quite vivid, even more so than am3e which also has excellent imaging.

The default module doesn't seem as wide and definitly not as deep and tall.

Ymmv but I'm glad fiio has made the thx module readily available. Now for a different flavour a tube type module would be very cool- what do you say Fiio?
 
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