[FiiO BTR15/BTR5 2021/BTR5]Bluetooth DAC and Headphone Amplifier Discussion & Impressions Thread
Feb 19, 2020 at 3:52 AM Post #991 of 3,679
$128 USD - ~19% VAT(?) = $104 USD, a bit closer to $99.99 than $109.99 - was that price with VAT? Does it come with anything else?:

On the USA side FiiO either sends me to their AliExpress FiiO shop and there is no BTR5 there at all. Another USA FiiO link sends me to TaoBao, and the BTR5 shows "This item has been taken off the shelves", but the price there equates to $99.69-$122.62, at the higher price you get a Balanced 2.5mm or 3.5mm cable added - I guess they didn't notice only the 2.5mm on the BTR5 is balanced.

FiiO Store on Aliexpress, oddly it sends me to a German page => .DE., and there is no .EN., but I can click "Send me to Global Site (English)", and that's the 2nd link:
https://fiio.de.aliexpress.com/store/1473108
https://fiio.aliexpress.com/store/1473108?spm=a2g0o.store_home

FiiO store on TaoBao:
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=604099078511&scene=taobao_shop
Yes. It's the MSRP incl. 19%VAT and free shipping.
There's is just the usb a to c cable with it. :wink:
 
Feb 19, 2020 at 5:13 AM Post #992 of 3,679
Here's the only one on Amazon atm. Not a good deal :wink:

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Feb 19, 2020 at 6:05 AM Post #993 of 3,679
Typical amazon market place pricing while out of stock. ^^
 
Feb 19, 2020 at 8:09 AM Post #995 of 3,679
There is no real MSRP for BTR5. FiiO doesn't set the final price and allows for the reseller to set their own price.

I'm sure FiiO has an MSRP, which I assume varies by region, but an MSRP is only a suggestion (manufacturer’s suggested retail price), retailers are always free to price it lower or higher depending on demand (unless there's some additional contract in place to set the price)
 
Feb 19, 2020 at 9:16 AM Post #996 of 3,679
Paid 1990 NOK ($200) for mine here in Norway, bought from the only stockist in the country I could find. Worth every krone.

I paid £75 with a 15% discount off voucher from AMP3 UK so 887NOK ($95) so really worth it !


::Update::

Actually it was :

Sub-Total: £89.99 inc. vat & Supersaver 2 - 4 working days (Postage to United Kingdom):DDiscount Coupons: BFY152019:-£13.50 Total:£76.49

Anybody got theirs cheaper ?
 
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Feb 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM Post #1,000 of 3,679
yes sure. but sometimes I just want to walk around my flat to do things while having audio sent over bluetooth from pc.

Got ya, should be easy to find a BT usb dongle I would think. Also you could load up a micro sd card with some favorite music and pop it in your phone and use that for BT.
 
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Feb 19, 2020 at 11:14 AM Post #1,001 of 3,679
Got ya, should be easy to find a BT usb dongle I would think.

i found many of these small one and they are all bluetooth 4.0 and just don’t know if they will work without lagging ( for watching youtube mostly) . and their prices are all very low , not saying i want to buy an expensive fancy audiophile one but might want to spend a little more to make sure faster speed and may be with better codecs.
 

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Feb 19, 2020 at 11:24 AM Post #1,002 of 3,679
I agree, LDAC is great and APT-X isn't "bad", I don't mind switching back and forth between USB-C and BT when I am roaming.

I connect via USB-C to Note 10+ / PC when seated. I have the BTR5 set to Prefer USB DAC so when I connect to USB C the BTR5 automatically switches back from BT to DAC. The BTR5 disconnects "seamlessly" switching to BT LDAC (phone) BT and APT-X (PC) when I roam.

I've A/B'd balanced and unbalanced KB Ear 16 core 2.5mm and 3.5mm - same cable spec - I prefer the balanced 2.5mm, and not only because of the higher volume. I find the balanced 2.5mm has a wider sound image expanding outwards slightly more from my head side to side.

KB EAR 16 core silver cable with metal 2pin/MMCX/QDC Connector Use For TRN V90 BA5 KZ ZSX ZS10 PRO AS10 BLON BL-03 CCA C12 QDC
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33045414046.html

It depends on the source material too of course. For now I am listening with HD / Ultra HD on Amazon Music HD, Netflix, Youtube, Spotify, etc. I've tried to switch back to 3.5mm, but I keep going back to 2.5mm balanced after a short time - balanced sounds better to me.

I have the Gain set to L most of the time, I prefer to have a little more play in the volume control.

Of note, I see 384k when I connect via USB-C to the phone but as soon as I play something the BTR5 shows 192k.

When connected via USB-C to the PC using the Sound Settings for the device entry for the BTR5 I can set the connection to 32 bit 384k and whatever I play it shows 384k on the BTR5.

At 16 bit 384k I can tell a distinct difference from 32 bit 384k - it sounds smoother at 32 bit or edgier / sharper in a not good way at 16 bit, similar differences at 192k 32/16 bit. The BTR5 display tracks the changes showing 192k / 384k.

Thanks for taking the time to make the extending reply. I concur the same differences using the BTR5 2.5 vs 3.5mm. Using the V30 3.5mm out is no longer a straight choice.

One thing - how did you set BTR5 to prefer USB-DAC ?
I would also love to see Charge mode left to Off by default.

I’m still on firmware 1.04 and wondering if it’s to do with that.
 
Feb 19, 2020 at 11:28 AM Post #1,003 of 3,679
i found many of these small one and they are all bluetooth 4.0 and just don’t know if they will work without lagging ( for watching youtube mostly) . and their prices are all very low , not saying i want to buy an expensive fancy audiophile one but might want to spend a little more to make sure faster speed and may be with better codecs.

I see what you mean, all the ones I saw were version 4.0, and some are just receivers. This one had good ratings and there is a 40 dollar creative one, but it has average ratings.

For close proximity I would say these should be fine.

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Feb 19, 2020 at 11:30 AM Post #1,004 of 3,679
i found many of these small one and they are all bluetooth 4.0 and just don’t know if they will work without lagging ( for watching youtube mostly) . and their prices are all very low , not saying i want to buy an expensive fancy audiophile one but might want to spend a little more to make sure faster speed and may be with better codecs.

Actually that one looks good and is even cheaper with decent reviews.
 
Feb 19, 2020 at 11:33 AM Post #1,005 of 3,679
Thanks for taking the time to make the extending reply. I concur the same differences using the BTR5 2.5 vs 3.5mm. Using the V30 3.5mm out is no longer a straight choice.

One thing - how did you set BTR5 to prefer USB-DAC ?
I would also love to see Charge mode left to Off by default.

I’m still on firmware 1.04 and wondering if it’s to do with that.

You can set those features with the fiio companion app (fiio control) or fiio music.

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