[hypnos1]

   
I saw this in another thread:
 

 
 
Source: http://www.head-fi.org/t/410326/for-6as7g-tube-rollers-here/3510#post_12514342
 
 
Should I be concerned?  Could using the EL3Ns damage the amp over time?

 
Hi KP....glad to see you're delighted with your Elise - the sound can only get even better!!
 
As UT says, the EL3Ns have now been running in a good few amps for quite a while now - mine for many hundreds of hours - and nothing untoward whatsoever...so NO WORRIES!
 
As for the sound quality, once more I repeat the VAST MAJORITY of users agree with UT's (and my own!) findings. I am quite sure you will also be very pleased with them...unless you're extremely unlucky LOL!!

...ENJOY...and...HAPPY LISTENING!

 

[UntilThen]

Afraid I would take Glenn's opinion over anyone else's , lol!..:wink_face: ...

+1

Glenn saying that EL3N is a fine sounding tube is a solid endorsement.

Far too many on this thread love the EL3N sound.

 

[Kon Peki]

Who is Glenn?

 

[JazzVinyl]

Afraid I would take Glenn's opinion over anyone else's , lol!..:wink_face: ...

When he agrees with you, you do :wink_face:

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[JazzVinyl]

+1

Glenn saying that EL3N is a fine sounding tube is a solid endorsement.

Far too many on this thread love the EL3N sound.

But it is not a unanimous opinion.

 

[Lord Raven]

LOL what about T1, is there a unanimous opinion about it?

 

[JazzVinyl]

LOL what about T1, is there a unanimous opinion about it?

LOL v1 or v2?

 

[Lord Raven]

LOL v1 or v2?

v1 LOL

 

[JazzVinyl]

Afraid I would take Glenn's opinion over anyone else's , lol!..:wink_face: ...

Afraid you didn't take his opinion of multiple 6BL7's bettering 6AS7G, did you? :wink_face:

 

[DecentLevi]

Well Glenn is the owner of what is basically Elise's competitor, which may actually have her outdone in some ways

 

[hypnos1]

Afraid you didn't take his opinion of multiple 6BL7's bettering 6AS7G, did you?

 
Please JV...you're not doing yourself any favours here alas...

 

[aqsw]

LOL what about T1, is there a unanimous opinion about it?

Not unanimous. I sent my T1.1s back. Liked the Ethers better, but 99% of the people here really like them. They are a very good phone with the Elise, but I already had the Ethers
and I thought these woild be fantastic with all the endorsements on this thread. I was disappointed, and since I had better and more comfortable (IMO) phones, they were returned.

I was worried about the low impedence on the Ethers, but once I found my proper tubes, this became a moot point.

 

[pctazhp]

I feel a little sorry for newbies who are waiting for their Elises or contemplating a purchase. They see some pretty intense disagreement on this thread about tubes and headphones.
 
I can only go on my own personal experience. I've tried many different tube combinations and went through an intense comparison of the T1 Gen 2 with HD800S.
 
With the headphones, I kept the HD800S and returned the T1, but could easily live with either. I haven't heard the first generation of either headphone.
 
With tube combinations, my two favorite are EL3N drivers/5998 powers and the 6 X EL3N (2 drivers and 4 powers). The later is really my favorite. It is absolute magic and just seems to do everything right. I have had some problem with distortion, but with continuing burn-in the distortion has disappeared on most recordings. I am confident it will disappear completely, and in the meantime 6 X EL3N is my go to combination.
 
I should point out that I have a personal preference to avoid external power, primarily because I am so lazy I hate turning two different switches off and on every time I listen )))
 
I don't want to denigrate the experience of anyone else here whose experience may be at variance with mine. At the same time, I would be pretty confident in advising new owners that I don't think they will be disappointed if they end up where I am.

 

[supersonic395]

I'll be running the Elise with the Beyerdynamic T1.2, so will provide impressions but only once I have sorted out my music.

Btw got the shipping notification of the Elise

Whilst my Elise will have stock driver tubes, I opted for upgraded power tubes for dat bass

I can't recall the name of the power tubes but I'll keep you lot posted once it arrives...most likely early next week as it's being delivered to the UK

 

[RedBull]

I am mainly love Elise because of the tube combination used. I love 6as7 and i love 6sn7. i never heard both tubes used together, but i believe the combination is just going to be great.

The closest amp topology i've heard and owned was tha-337 with 2x 6as7 and 2x 6sj7 which i love the sound very much.
I sold it because of the dual volume pot which drove me nuts after awhile.

Somehow so far i have preference for bigger tubes than the miniature ones.
At least in Ember, the different between ANY minis that i have and 6sn7 tubes is apparent, at least to me.
The differences are mainly in SOUNDSTAGE and frequency extension, high and low.
Perhaps i haven't really tried the best of the mini tubes, but with all tubes that i have, all 6sn7 kills all mini tubes easily (for my preference).
So hence, when i know that Eliae is using all big size tubes, i was excited and full of hopes.
Not many OTL amps out there are using all full size tubes.