Feliks-Audio ELISE...New thread.
May 17, 2016 at 5:53 PM Post #10,501 of 13,846
You have no idea!!! By the way, I love that album :gs1000smile:


Hi pctazhp!

Cool. I actually order one sealed copy this evening! Just curious about this "dynagroove" mastering RCA did back in the 60's. Have heard very few positive comments. But I think I like it anyhow beacuse it's a great live album :sunglasses:

Do you play vinyl yourself?
 
May 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM Post #10,502 of 13,846
Hi pctazhp!

Cool. I actually order one sealed copy this evening! Just curious about this "dynagroove" mastering RCA did back in the 60's. Have heard very few positive comments. But I think I like it anyhow beacuse it's a great live album :sunglasses:

Do you play vinyl yourself?

I'm sure you will be happy with the LP. Unfortunately, sometime during the late 50s, early 60s, RCA switched from its legendary "Shaded Dog" Living Stereo line to dynagroove and the quality was never the same, but still good.
 
I got rid of my 2500 LPs about 10 years ago mainly because I got lazy and old, but was into vinyl for over 30 years.  I think @UntilThen is buying up my old collection, one LP at a time ))))
 
May 17, 2016 at 7:05 PM Post #10,503 of 13,846
Hi UT,
 
I have had a pair of EL3N for a while and have practiced to get the tubes in and out. The first time I was sweating bullets - wrote it up.
 
However, there is a second supplier of the EL3N single adapters now (Suzier). In addition to being lower in price and shipping, I found the tubes easier to insert into their adapters.
 
The Suzier adapters are slightly taller; otherwise they look almost identical.
 
Although the four power tubes are not burned in, the sound is sweet and detailed right out of the box. But I am itching to throw in some spice into the mix to firm up the impact and slam in the bass, although this is supposed to happen over time with burn in....
 
Wonder what a pair of BX or BL will do to that....
 
May 17, 2016 at 7:13 PM Post #10,504 of 13,846
Haha is Suzier cashing in as well? 
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What I need is for someone to make a more streamline adapter and in black. Would be interesting to see what Glenn uses for his custom amp for EL3N.
 
May 17, 2016 at 8:05 PM Post #10,507 of 13,846
  New to this thread and loving my Elise :).
 
So far my favorite tubes are the pictured old stock Tung Sol 6SN7 and RCA 6AS7G.

Hi KP and welcome back. :)
 
Very nice photos there and you have many headphones to test Elise with and you're using Schitt Bifrost Multibit.
 
Your setup is very neat and nice. With a HD800S, I think that is all you need for a very enjoyable system. You don't need more. 
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Did you test it out as preamp with your active AudioEngine A2 or A5? 
 
May 17, 2016 at 8:26 PM Post #10,508 of 13,846
  Hi KP and welcome back. :)
 
Very nice photos there and you have many headphones to test Elise with and you're using Schitt Bifrost Multibit.
 
Your setup is very neat and nice. With a HD800S, I think that is all you need for a very enjoyable system. You don't need more. 
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Did you test it out as preamp with your active AudioEngine A2 or A5? 

 
Thanks!  Bifrost Multibit -> Elise -> HD800S is the most enjoyable combination I've found to date, and I'm relieved that I didn't have to buy expensive tubes to get to this level of enjoyment.
 
I did briefly try Elise as a preamp with the Audioengine A5+.  Sounds very good as well!
 
May 17, 2016 at 8:34 PM Post #10,509 of 13,846
Have been trying out the Elise as a preamp, chain is computer, JRiver21, PS Audio Dac Elise 6 pack, to Harman-Kardon avr-510 to Electro Voice Sentry 5's, two way 8 inch horn, 10 inch woofer.  Just have Darlene Koldenhoven on, and her voice thru this setup, especially the horn's is amazing.  Wife just came back to listen, wondered if I had gotten a new set of speakers, assured her same ones I have had back here since early 1970's.  It is easy to see why they called them studio monitors, life like
 
May 17, 2016 at 8:55 PM Post #10,510 of 13,846
Here's one to relax you UT...

 
May 17, 2016 at 10:03 PM Post #10,511 of 13,846
   
Thanks!  Bifrost Multibit -> Elise -> HD800S is the most enjoyable combination I've found to date, and I'm relieved that I didn't have to buy expensive tubes to get to this level of enjoyment.
 
I did briefly try Elise as a preamp with the Audioengine A5+.  Sounds very good as well!


It's true you can get really good sound from just 6SN7 and 6AS7. Besides looking good and neat, these tubes are economical too. There are varying grades of 6SN7 and 6AS7 too. I'm running Sylvania 6SN7GTB and Chatham 6520 now and it's dishing out standard Elise tone. Very musical and enjoyable.
 
May 17, 2016 at 10:12 PM Post #10,512 of 13,846
  Here's one to relax you UT...
 

She's an amazing violinist. So much emotions  
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I went to a HiFi shop to buy a Record Carbon Fibre Anti Static cleaning brush and I see all the gorgeous turntables there.... Clearaudio, Rega, Music Hall, Thorens... ok better not look too much. :)
 
This brush is an absolute essential ... I apply it to the spinning LP and was shocked at the dust the brush picks up.
 
May 17, 2016 at 10:36 PM Post #10,513 of 13,846
Getting a little confused - it is possible that the hum comes from the using two adapters (dual and 6x) together.
 
Tried two Visseaux 6N7G as drivers with 6 x EL3N - bad hum. I left the dual adapters with the EL3N tubes (four) in place on the 6x adapter and removed two of the 6EL3N tubes from the 6x adapter and put them into the driver sockets. Bad hum......
 
The same exact six EL3N tubes in the same sockets, minus the 6 x adapter - no hum. And the 6x adapter by itself with six tubes is very quiet.
 
Does anybody have an explanation?
 
May 17, 2016 at 11:03 PM Post #10,514 of 13,846
 
It's true you can get really good sound from just 6SN7 and 6AS7. Besides looking good and neat, these tubes are economical too. There are varying grades of 6SN7 and 6AS7 too. I'm running Sylvania 6SN7GTB and Chatham 6520 now and it's dishing out standard Elise tone. Very musical and enjoyable.

 
Nice!  I just bought some of Sylvanias on Ebay:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301955350870?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
Also some Mullard 6080s from Langrex:
 
http://www.langrex.co.uk/common-valves.html
 
May 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM Post #10,515 of 13,846
   
Nice!  I just bought some of Sylvanias on Ebay:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301955350870?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
Also some Mullard 6080s from Langrex:
 
http://www.langrex.co.uk/common-valves.html


Good choice. I have the same Sylvania 6SN7GTB Chrome top with green letterings. Very clear and sweet sounding. I bought from that same seller. His tubes are pristine and the packaging is 1st class.
 
Mullard 6080 are leaner, brighter, tighter tone and will complement your warm and lush RCA 6AS7G. 
 
Did you get your Elise with stock tubes?
 

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