[TLO]

Have just rolled a pair of Philips E80CC for a few days, thought they sound really good as 6SN7 in my amp until I put in the ECC31 and wow...ECC31 wins hands down, no question about it. I am just wondering...has anyone compared ECC31 to EF80, EF86 or L63? Please share your thoughts if you do, thanks!!!

 

[LoryWiv]

Have just rolled a pair of Philips E80CC for a few days, thought they sound really good as 6SN7 in my amp until I put in the ECC31 and wow...ECC31 wins hands down, no question about it. I am just wondering...has anyone compared ECC31 to EF80, EF86 or L63? Please share your thoughts if you do, thanks!!!

Thanks @TLO. Forgive my ignorance but what adapters are needed to run ECC31 in Elise?

 

[OctavianH]

Thanks @TLO. Forgive my ignorance but what adapters are needed to run ECC31 in Elise?

ECC31 has to work with 6N7 -> 6SN7 adapters.

 

[UntilThen]

Thanks @TLO. Forgive my ignorance but what adapters are needed to run ECC31 in Elise?

Lory https://www.ebay.com/itm/201134198992

Back when I use ECC31 in Elise. It's a great tone.

 

[mordy]

Have just rolled a pair of Philips E80CC for a few days, thought they sound really good as 6SN7 in my amp until I put in the ECC31 and wow...ECC31 wins hands down, no question about it. I am just wondering...has anyone compared ECC31 to EF80, EF86 or L63? Please share your thoughts if you do, thanks!!!

The L63 is one half of a 6SN7 so you need a dual adapter and four tubes. However, the consensus seems to be that two triodes L63/6J5G/GT sound better than using 6SN7 tubes.

 

[TLO]

The L63 is one half of a 6SN7 so you need a dual adapter and four tubes. However, the consensus seems to be that two triodes L63/6J5G/GT sound better than using 6SN7 tubes.

Yes, I have read many commented on this, looking to try out GEC L63. Do you have the chance to compare it with ECC31?

 

[mordy]

It gets a little complicated. Even though the 6SN7 is a dual triode and only one tube would be enough in the Elise, Feliks Audio decided to use two 6SN7 tubes in parallel. Now, HPMDR in France said that if you use the same adapter as the ECC31 requires, you can use two such adapters and you only need two single triodes 6J5G/T in the Elise.
I did try it, but it did not sound good to me. However, if you use the Elise with four 6J5GT tubes and dual adapters, instead of the two 6SN7 tubes, the results may be different.
The ECC31 has a very warm tone to it and it is quite nice. However, my current amp only uses a single dual triode as driver, and here I found that two single triode 6J5GT tubes sound better than one 6SN7 or equivalent.
Every amp is different, and the same tube may sound different in different amps - don't know how the circuitry of the Elise lends itself to the use of four single triodes. But it may be worth trying, or perhaps somebody already did try it.
So far I only have one L63 ST shape, but by all accounts it is a great sounding tube.
PS: I actually realized that I have two dual adapters 6J5 to 6SN7 and I rigged up the amp with four 6J5GT tubes. All I got was a loud hum so forget about it in the Elise/Euforia.

PPS: Took out a pair of ECC31 to 6SN7 adapters and put in a pair of Sylvania 1951 6J5GT with a pair of 5998 tubes. Except for needing more volume than usual the sound is quite good. More to follow...

 

[mordy]

It was a long time ago when I last listened to my Euforia with 6J5GT tubes. Since then I have learnt much more about the 6J5 family tubes and found a couple of favorite tubes.
ATM I am listening to the Euforia (and the Elise would sound very similar) with a pair of early 1950 tall metal base Sylvania 6J5GT tubes and a pair of Tung Sol 5998 tubes. The sound is very good with a meaty, satisfying bass and low midrange. Light, airy and detailed sound with great bass.
I changed my mind - this combination is really good. IMHO it is very worthwhile to try the Elise/Eforia with a pair of 6J5G/GT drivers. All you need are the 6SN7 to 6N7 adapters and the rest is plug and play. Except for the Sylvania tubes mentioned above Tung Sol tubes are also excellent. The L63 ST type can be very pricey; the GT (straight glass) are much less if bought right (Langrex) and I am sure that they will sound very good.
Every time I take a picture of my amps I notice dust particles that I don't notice in daily use. Just found a way to avoid this problem - a night shot:

Well - almost lol...

 

[TLO]

It was a long time ago when I last listened to my Euforia with 6J5GT tubes. Since then I have learnt much more about the 6J5 family tubes and found a couple of favorite tubes.
ATM I am listening to the Euforia (and the Elise would sound very similar) with a pair of early 1950 tall metal base Sylvania 6J5GT tubes and a pair of Tung Sol 5998 tubes. The sound is very good with a meaty, satisfying bass and low midrange. Light, airy and detailed sound with great bass.
I changed my mind - this combination is really good. IMHO it is very worthwhile to try the Elise/Eforia with a pair of 6J5G/GT drivers. All you need are the 6SN7 to 6N7 adapters and the rest is plug and play. Except for the Sylvania tubes mentioned above Tung Sol tubes are also excellent. The L63 ST type can be very pricey; the GT (straight glass) are much less if bought right (Langrex) and I am sure that they will sound very good.
Every time I take a picture of my amps I notice dust particles that I don't notice in daily use. Just found a way to avoid this problem - a night shot:


Well - almost lol...

Unfortunately, my amp Line Magnetic LM508, doesnt have enough space for the ST bottle, guess I will just look into the GT bottle with the new smaller adapter. Thanks a lot for the input.

 

[mordy]

Unfortunately, my amp Line Magnetic LM508, doesnt have enough space for the ST bottle, guess I will just look into the GT bottle with the new smaller adapter. Thanks a lot for the input.

There is an inelegant way around it - by stacking socket savers you can put one tube higher than the other one and make it fit.

 

[TLO]

There is an inelegant way around it - by stacking socket savers you can put one tube higher than the other one and make it fit.

Brilliant!!! Never think of that...LOL

 

[shafat777]

Tonight's flavor : GEC 6v6GT ft. PSVANE KT88 as power tube.

Smooth, lush, holographic.

 

[mordy]

Everything goes better with Coke...It's true!
Two late 30's coke bottle 6J5G tubes labeled Wards Airline and Wizard sound great!