F* the iPhone

[dgbiker1]

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Originally Posted by G-man /img/forum/go_quote.gif you know as well as me that the monthly line rentals are way overpriced. for 3.30 a month I got: the samsung u600 (worth £250) 500 texts 500 mins I think i am more than happy with that. So yea, the iphone is overpriced.

Ughh, these comparisons make my brain hurt. It's apples to oranges. Compare it to other smartphones with similar features, you'll see it's pretty much even (the old $400 iphone was actually cheaper than a $99 blackberry after 18 months). For example, touch screen windows mobile phones on Verizon (my current carrier): XV6900 $279, SCH-i760 $299, XV-6800 $369. Not one is cheaper than the iphone. Even my blackberry 8830 without a touchscreen, and hardly any storage space was $100 more than an iPhone.

 

[G-man]

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Originally Posted by dgbiker1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ughh, these comparisons make my brain hurt. It's apples to oranges. Compare it to other smartphones with similar features, you'll see it's pretty much even (the old $400 iphone was actually cheaper than a $99 blackberry after 18 months). For example, touch screen windows mobile phones on Verizon (my current carrier): XV6900 $279, SCH-i760 $299, XV-6800 $369. Not one is cheaper than the iphone. Even my blackberry 8830 without a touchscreen, and hardly any storage space was $100 more than an iPhone.

the iphone is not a smart phone. It cant do office documents, only now can it do ms exchange (and that also not well). Seriously, calling the iphone a smartphone makes my head hurt.

 

[Al4x]

its more a multimedia device, not for business but for the casual user, im def no fan boy, i wish there was competion so i didnt have to buy an apple product

 

[3X0]

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Originally Posted by Al4x /img/forum/go_quote.gif its more a multimedia device, not for business but for the casual user, im def no fan boy, i wish there was competion so i didnt have to buy an apple product

There is competition.. you just haven't been looking hard enough.

The plan you're forced on the newer iPhone is absolute extortion. I'll stick with my unlocked N95 on my el cheapo plan of choice, thanks (and end up paying half in cost of ownership compared to an iPhone 3G user over the next 2 years).

I'm surprised there's still lines, though.

 

[hatethatgiraffe]

g-man with all respect do you have an iphone or are you basing your opinion on what you've read ??
Don't knwo about you but i normally have more respect for the opinions of someone who has hands on experience of what they are discussing!!
If you have used one did you give it as much of a chance as you gave your K701's??

 

[dgbiker1]

Blackberry can't do office docs either (yet) and that's the archetypal smartphone, WinMo's support of office docs is so poor that it's pretty much useless (I tried to use it 4 or 5 times in ~2 years and it never formatted the documents properly, they were usually illegible). And since when did office support become the defining feature of a smartphone?

iPhone is absolutely a smartphone, it just has a media-biased feature set. It has a specific OS with the ability to add applications, email support, web support (better than most smartphones), task lists, reads PDFs (much better than blackberry), has PDA functions, and a qwerty keyboard. A regular phone will have basic web support, maybe adds some sandbox applications... and a calculator?
I went through all the functions on my 8830 and found the only thing missing on the iphone was the "brickbreaker" game. So unless adding media functions to a smartphone makes it not a smartphone, I consider the iphone a smartphone.

 

[G-man]

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Originally Posted by hatethatgiraffe /img/forum/go_quote.gif g-man with all respect do you have an iphone or are you basing your opinion on what you've read ?? Don't knwo about you but i normally have more respect for the opinions of someone who has hands on experience of what they are discussing!! If you have used one did you give it as much of a chance as you gave your K701's??

Firstly, ill have you know that i kept the k701s for a week, tried it out with my friends system, didnt like them at all, and so i returned them. I don't see the need of spending 180 pounds on something i dont think are worth it.

And considering i my sister has the iphone, i have had quite a lot of experience with it, so yes, i have *some* idea of what i am talking about. And with all due respect, the people online who generally write articles have more knowledge about the product, and the market than you or I. so they would know more. If you read a knowledgeable, non biased opinion or article on the iphone they will all say that it is not the first one, it is too expensive, it is over hyped, and it is not a smart phone.

 

[hatethatgiraffe]

G-man if you as your post suggests read reviews as in-depthly as you imagine then you would have known that the k701 requires so much more than a week to burn in!!
Try to base your life choices and opinions on experience rather than what you read on the net rather than spending your life trying to be controversial!!
as post above yours clearly states the iphone has plenty of leanings towards smartphone status and does indeed have media at forefront of its priorities but hands on it does so much so well!!

 

[Al4x]

oh yeah i should add, im on no contract and it is unlocked,

i can view ms office .doc but not edit, pdf are the most useful tho

i dont really think theres any decent competiotn for the casual user device

 

[G-man]

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Originally Posted by hatethatgiraffe /img/forum/go_quote.gif G-man if you as your post suggests read reviews as in-depthly as you imagine then you would have known that the k701 requires so much more than a week to burn in!! Try to base your life choices and opinions on experience rather than what you read on the net rather than spending your life trying to be controversial!! as post above yours clearly states the iphone has plenty of leanings towards smartphone status and does indeed have media at forefront of its priorities but hands on it does so much so well!!

Yea, i don't believe that burn in can make it sound that much better. Many people don't believe in burn in, and i feel that after around 60 hours, any and all burn in, if it did exist, should be evident. It wasn't.

I do base my choices on experience. and experience taught me that iphone is over hyped, and that it is not a smartphone. That the k701s are not wroth 180 pounds. I never said that it didn't lean toward being a mediaphone. i said it wasn't a smart phone.

 

[hatethatgiraffe]

What would you expect a smartphone to do??
Do you have a definition of smartphone??
take your time to decide and answer when someone else has formed an opinion for you if need be!!

 

[analogbox]

The only reason I wanna get an iphone is because of it's sleek web browsing. I could care less about it's ipod functionality because I'll probably carry an ipod separately. But, none of the phones out there now supports seamless web browsing on big screen without the bulk as iphone does. (Nokia look ok but they are just took bulky to carry in my pocket.)

 

[3X0]

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Originally Posted by Al4x /img/forum/go_quote.gif oh yeah i should add, im on no contract and it is unlocked, i can view ms office .doc but not edit, pdf are the most useful tho i dont really think theres any decent competiotn for the casual user device

The casual user doesn't survey any options anyway.

hatethatgiraffe, would you quit lobbying for the iPhone so fervently? I mean, it's a decent device for many people, I concede that point to you. But you really come off too strongly in its favor, and I recall a while ago I was at odds with you on the iPhone in a certain thread that mysteriously disappeared (deletion). You don't have to attack people just because they hold a different opinion for a product that you enjoy. If all of head-fi behaved in that manner for audio equipment, it would be a complete war-zone and everyone would come off as being a paid lobbyist for their product of choice.

Is any smartphone really worth it anyway? My mother and father use economy-based Nokias (the type that Nokia dominates market share with). Call quality is excellent, speakerphone is surprisingly decent, battery life lasts at least four times as long as any smartphone I've seen. Practicality sometimes wins out.

 

[chadbang]

a couple people at work have them. theyre groovy. its all about the touch screen interaction. my kids have nintendo ds games. i've been playing with them, then i played with an iphone and realized really how great of an interface ypu can make with a big screen and a cool touch screen interface. not that the nintendos are any slouch, i saw huge potential with touch screens for the first time playing with them. then apple with the iphone really made it fun and functional - although i guess they might have been first. not sure about the timing

 

[hatethatgiraffe]

3XO
my argument is only half of what it seems!!
G-man spends his life blowing smoke on others views with very limited experience IMO of what he burns!!
He has reached his post count trying to be controversial and argumentative!!
Yes i argue in favour of my iphone, somewhat fervently at times, but this is because i feel strongly about its uses features and interface!!
No louder than others shouting about the cowon d2 or the flavour of the month amp!!
Some people like to be down on apple for whatever reason and as much as we all are entitled to opinion there is a fine line between citing your views and being controversial for the sake of fanning argument and raising your post count which g-man appears to be doing!!
I post this with all due respect and do not wish to enter into long winded argument but if in doubt check his posts and the amount of arguments he ,unneccessarily, enters into!!