[VoLTaG3]

In most earphone manufacturers or headphone manufacturers or anywhere else that create products that have advancements over the other. Lets take Shure for example....

With Shure in the earphone department you have....

1. SE110
2. SE115
3. SE210
4. SE310
5. SE420
6. SE530

Did Shure purposely limit the previous model to purposely allow the next model to be better?
Do companies do this on purpose? Or is it that they didn't have or know the technology at the time to create the next more advanced model? What are you guys inputs....I wanna hear.

 

[jsmithepa]

Why say "limit?" Why not say they try to make products that appeal to people who have difference spending$ points?

Why do u seem to assume companies always want to make the "best" product possible, if the consumer is not able to afford it?

 

[z50j]

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Originally Posted by jsmithepa /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why say "limit?" Why not say they try to make products that appeal to people who have difference spending$ points? Why do u seem to assume companies always want to make the "best" product possible, if the consumer is not able to afford it?

they did limit the bass on the E2Cs but you can release them by krammer moding it, so maybe they do do it on purpose

 

[VoLTaG3]

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Originally Posted by jsmithepa /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why say "limit?" Why not say they try to make products that appeal to people who have difference spending$ points? Why do u seem to assume companies always want to make the "best" product possible, if the consumer is not able to afford it?

Very true...

 

[koven]

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Originally Posted by jsmithepa /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why say "limit?" Why not say they try to make products that appeal to people who have difference spending$ points? Why do u seem to assume companies always want to make the "best" product possible, if the consumer is not able to afford it?

Yep.. I thought this was common sense?


That's like asking why does Porsche create Boxters when they can just make a bunch of Carrera GT's

Why does McDonald's sell $1 burgers instead of Filet Mignon? WHY!?

 

[cn11]

Ah yes! Porsches!!! ...the Cayman S encroaches dangerously close to the 911's performance level. That's a case of the supposed lower model performing over its supposed limitations. Credit that mid engine layout over rear engine.

 

[Spyro]

I don't think any of them on that list are worth a damn except SE530. But then I probably have spoiled ears by now.

 

[z50j]

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Originally Posted by cn11 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ah yes! Porsches!!! ...the Cayman S encroaches dangerously close to the 911's performance level. That's a case of the supposed lower model performing over its supposed limitations. Credit that mid engine layout over rear engine.

why are you guys talking about porsches when this forum is about headphones. OT: the caymans look sexier than the 911s which look macho

 

[hydrocyanic]

cayman's design is inherently better than 911 due to its midship engine layout, but seeing that the 911 has its history, they have to lower the performance, yah.

i wouldn't say shure limited their lower lines' performance, but instead it is a compromise, they might charge a little less of the mark up on a slightly cheaper parts.

which company doesn't do that anyways? please don't suggests klipsch's x10's BA charges 100-200 more than custom 1

 

[jsmithepa]

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Originally Posted by z50j /img/forum/go_quote.gif they did limit the bass on the E2Cs but you can release them by krammer moding it, so maybe they do do it on purpose

Sure... sometimes two products are so close that it's obviously a better deal to buy #1 than #2, so they "tweak it" so the 2 products are not so close anymore and able to offer u 2 price points.

But for the most part, to me, this belongs to the conspiracy crowd.

 

[crossmd]

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Originally Posted by jsmithepa /img/forum/go_quote.gif But for the most part, to me, this belongs to the conspiracy crowd.

This. If I applied this school of thought to everything I did, I'd drive myself mad.

 

[tintin47]

It is called price discrimination, and almost every single company in the world engages in it. I believe it is third degree price discrimination, though the type doesn't matter outside of economics problem sets. Of course they have cheaper pairs for people who don't have $500 for phones but may have $150.

 

[tintin47]

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Originally Posted by jsmithepa /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sure... sometimes two products are so close that it's obviously a better deal to buy #1 than #2, so they "tweak it" so the 2 products are not so close anymore and able to offer u 2 price points. But for the most part, to me, this belongs to the conspiracy crowd.

It isn't a conspiracy. It is a business model. If you owned a business, of course you would have different models and take features out and the such to increase differences. There are countless examples of large scale electronics manufactuers doing this.

IBM, in about 1990, came out with a new chip which had some sort of revolutionary math function processor. They sold it for ~$1000. They had another model which sold for $400 or so which was the exact same chip without the math function piece. They achieved the difference by making all of the chips the same and then breaking the math processor for the lesser expensive chips. You read that correctly. The less expensive chips costed more for IBM to manufacture because of the extra manufacturing process of destroying part of the chip.

This also happens often with VCRs and DVD players. They make the PCBs for the high end model, and take parts off the board for less expensive models.

 

[atomiccow]

tintin47 is right. Products aren't priced based on what they cost to design and build, they're priced on what people will pay for them. True the cost of design and manufacturing does create the break even price, what you pay for a product in stores though, isn't this price. The retail price is based on lots of market research which tells retailers how much people are willing to pay for a certain product. That's why the top of the line products usually cost a lot more than the next best thing despite only very marginal improvements. Simply because people will pay for it at that price makes it marketable at that price.

If your se530's were priced on manufacturing and design costs, everyone on head-fi would have one

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