JazzJackRabbit
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Well, I needed a set of sub $100 semi-portable headphones for a while now to watch movies on my laptop at home and on the train and for occasional gaming. The requirments were simple: 1 - comfort, 2 - sound and 3 - noise isolation. So natuarally I opted for something supraaural like SonyV6, GradoSR80, Sennheiser200/250 or Sony D66 or even a circumaural like A500/900. But then I saw an Ety6 sale at Kmart for only ~101 with shipping and all taxes included, and after reading lots of positive feedback about Ety4/6 and after much hesitation I finally went for it. The headphones arrived yesterday and... they've been nothing but disappointing.
Comfort
That was the most important thing for me. My ears, although average sized, somewhat stick out of my head and therefore very sensitive to pressure. Lots of ppl praised Senn4xx/2xx series for their comfort, and I hated them because they exerted a lot of uneven pressure on my ears, which literally started hurting after only an hour of use. So naturally I was very worried about the Ety6 being uncomfortable and all, but I was wrong. These headphones in fact are very comfortable, yesterday, I watched a two-hour movie and listened to music for another 30-60 minutes and my ears did not hurt a bit. Granted, I had a "funny" feeling in my ears, but I'm sure I could have used to it with time.
Noise Isolation
I didn't really care about noise isolation, but it was probably due to the fact that I've never had good noise-isolation headphones so I've never known the pleasure of noise isolation before.
Ety6 do block a lot of noise, if I simply put them in, w/o the music going on, all voices, TV and window fan appear muffled a lot, excellent results I must say... With music on voices disappear completely - I could see the ppl moving their lips but I could not hear a thing, simply excellent, same thing with TV, but unfortunately Ety6 are not so good at blocking my window fan - I could always hear it, even while watching movies or listening to music. Overall I was very impressed by the noise isolation, kudos Ety...
Sound
This is the second most important thing for me after comfort and this is where I was most disappointed with Etys... I didn't want to spend a lot on portable headphones, so I expected that $100 headphones will never match my HD600. But from reading all ER4 reviews about how good sounding they were - on par with HD600, and reading that ER6 were very close to ER4, I assumed that even if ER6 weren't as good Senns, they were at least half-way decent. And how wrong I was again. I don't know about ER4, but if they do indeed sound a lot like ER6, then there is no way in hell they can compare to HD600, no way. The very first thing that smacked me right across the bottom when I tried Ety6 on was the lack of bass. There simply wasn't any. So I dug up the manual, read the part on how to insert them into ears and did it like they said - pulled up the ear and pushed it as far as they went withouth hurting the ears. And... no change. Well, to be truthful there was some, I did notice more bass response, but still it was almost nonexistant. Subjectively the frequency response dropped sharply below 200-300Hz I know some of you will taunt me saying I did not get a good seal, but I did. I did everything by the manual short of moistening the rubber tips.
I shoved the Etys so far I could hear myself breathing (a sign of complete seal). And yet no bass response. I even tried foam tips and still no bass response. So disappointing... Mids and highs were not much better. Etys give a fair amount of detail, and although I would not call them analytic like some ppl do, they definitely give lots of detail. However that was not why I disliked them, I disliked them mainly because mids and treeble appeared very harsh to me, I'd even say shrill - a typical weakness of low-end headphones. HD497 that I used to have had the same problem - metallic treeble, however unlike Etys Senn497 had a fairly good bass response and they cost half as much. Anyway, by the end of yesterdays listening session I had a horrible headache, something I have not had since Senn497. By that time I was really disappointed... The only good thing that I liked about Etys is the soundstage, really good, much better than anything I've heard, but unfortunately it's not enough to redeem other shortcomings...
Value
Overall I did not find the headphones THAT much better sounding than the cheapo plugs that came with my Sister's iRiver R90 MP3 player, little bit more bass, noticably better overall detail but very shrill and definitely not worth $100 compared to el-cheapo $5 ones.
I had my HD600 for about 9 months now? And with time I was growing kind of disappointed with their sound, I wanted more from them, but hearing Ety6 has made me realize again how good Senns are.
So, to sum up, is there something wrong with me? I read all arounnd the forum how ppl enjoy Etys and how good the bass is, but why the hell I can't hear it? Am I not supposed to? Do Etys need some burn-in time flike full-sized headphones? I may give them another chance in the next couple of days but for now I'm really really tempted to return them to the store. Yes, they provide excellent isolation which was a very nice bonus, but they sound horrible and give me headache... Any opinions, advices?
Comfort
That was the most important thing for me. My ears, although average sized, somewhat stick out of my head and therefore very sensitive to pressure. Lots of ppl praised Senn4xx/2xx series for their comfort, and I hated them because they exerted a lot of uneven pressure on my ears, which literally started hurting after only an hour of use. So naturally I was very worried about the Ety6 being uncomfortable and all, but I was wrong. These headphones in fact are very comfortable, yesterday, I watched a two-hour movie and listened to music for another 30-60 minutes and my ears did not hurt a bit. Granted, I had a "funny" feeling in my ears, but I'm sure I could have used to it with time.
Noise Isolation
I didn't really care about noise isolation, but it was probably due to the fact that I've never had good noise-isolation headphones so I've never known the pleasure of noise isolation before.
Sound
This is the second most important thing for me after comfort and this is where I was most disappointed with Etys... I didn't want to spend a lot on portable headphones, so I expected that $100 headphones will never match my HD600. But from reading all ER4 reviews about how good sounding they were - on par with HD600, and reading that ER6 were very close to ER4, I assumed that even if ER6 weren't as good Senns, they were at least half-way decent. And how wrong I was again. I don't know about ER4, but if they do indeed sound a lot like ER6, then there is no way in hell they can compare to HD600, no way. The very first thing that smacked me right across the bottom when I tried Ety6 on was the lack of bass. There simply wasn't any. So I dug up the manual, read the part on how to insert them into ears and did it like they said - pulled up the ear and pushed it as far as they went withouth hurting the ears. And... no change. Well, to be truthful there was some, I did notice more bass response, but still it was almost nonexistant. Subjectively the frequency response dropped sharply below 200-300Hz I know some of you will taunt me saying I did not get a good seal, but I did. I did everything by the manual short of moistening the rubber tips.
Value
Overall I did not find the headphones THAT much better sounding than the cheapo plugs that came with my Sister's iRiver R90 MP3 player, little bit more bass, noticably better overall detail but very shrill and definitely not worth $100 compared to el-cheapo $5 ones.
I had my HD600 for about 9 months now? And with time I was growing kind of disappointed with their sound, I wanted more from them, but hearing Ety6 has made me realize again how good Senns are.
So, to sum up, is there something wrong with me? I read all arounnd the forum how ppl enjoy Etys and how good the bass is, but why the hell I can't hear it? Am I not supposed to? Do Etys need some burn-in time flike full-sized headphones? I may give them another chance in the next couple of days but for now I'm really really tempted to return them to the store. Yes, they provide excellent isolation which was a very nice bonus, but they sound horrible and give me headache... Any opinions, advices?