Equalizer settings recommendation

Jun 17, 2018 at 5:59 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 7

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Hello. I am using a pair of Pioneer HDJ-1500W headphones with a Cambridge DacMagix XS amplifier, with no enchacement on (see pic)
I was trying to properly equalize my headphones using the method described here > https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/3h2f57/how_to_equalize_your_headphones_on_windows/ but my headphones aren't listed in the headphone frequency response graph thing for some reason so I decided posting it here, maybe some of you guys can help. I am using the Peace interface for EqualizerAPO. Can you please recommend me, or just tell me what would be the "correct" eq settings in order to get the music as close to the original? Frequencies, Gain values, Quality, Filters, everything needed (see pic)
Thanks alot and sorry for looking like a retard all throughout the post.
 

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Jun 17, 2018 at 9:43 AM Post #2 of 7
Not sounding like a person of reduced acuity at all.
The big problem here is that what you need is someone who not only owns this headphone but also has done the same thing you want to achieve.
This is an extremely unlikely combination.
Most folks around here will only EQ their high-end headphones to a small degree to make the final 5% correction to their personal taste.

Pioneer DJ headphones (as far as I've heard) are quite coloured and bass heavy, so you would need to do about 20-30% correction to get something closer to 'reference'.
I'm not sure it's even worth the effort. Your headphone is designed to emphasize bass and treble frequencies so the DJ can audibly distinguish between the played music and the mix.

If nobody has the EQ settings you need, it might be easiest to EQ against a set of half way decent bookshelf loudspeakers, as they're often more linear than headphones overall down to about 100hz.
But if you have no 'linear' point of reference, you're pretty much stuck because doing it by ear and ear alone is almost impossible.
 
Jun 18, 2018 at 4:52 AM Post #4 of 7
Unless a reviewer or individual with a measuring rig has published the graph, no.
I found this one - https://www.lesnumeriques.com/casque-audio/pioneer-hdj-1500-p15612/test.html
But it's a very accentuated graph and the measurements from other famous headphones don't completely match those from the more famous/prolific websites so you can only take the results with a pinch of salt. I'm not convinced it's even 80% accurate, so you might get some odd results after EQ.

In the last paragraph, I mean that as a last resort, if you have no other way of finding a graph to equalize against, you can try EQ'ing it by ear by playing music with a set of decent speakers, and then listening to the same music with the headphone, and EQ the values until the headphone starts to sound like the speakers.
Since good speakers are often more linear/reference than headphones for a decent part of the frequency spectrum. But it's still far from ideal.
 
Jun 18, 2018 at 11:03 AM Post #6 of 7
sooo basically should I just leave the EQ flat if I can't anyway do it properly? I have no good speakers ;(

Well the thing is you need some sort of reference, either the graph or a system that has a relatively flat sound. Think of it like navigation - you have to know where you are and where the destination is before you take a bearing.

You don't run the risk of running out of fuel or food unlike a lost ship or plane, so you can always just grope around blind. It's just that it will still be a heck of a lot harder.
 
Jun 18, 2018 at 12:50 PM Post #7 of 7
Most easily and trustable is trial and error with your EARS.
If there is a sample wav file sweeping 20 to 20k, play it on your system and hear how it sounds w/o any dsp or Eq.
If no peak or valley are heard, then game end. If yes, it must be yes, then memo what freq it is for peaks, valley.
(It is easy job with Jriver MC23 analyzer function).
The next step is set eq bands for compensating so that you will hear a flat responding : play with eq bands on will not hear those peak/valley.

To do this, one by one set eq bands. Unless complicate case need 2 bands combination to eliminate a peak or valley, almost case can use 1 band (of fully parametric eq) to eliminate. Jriver MC23 is best to do this job again.
Also NeutronMp is posible option, for mobile devices.
An eq band need 3 factor : center freq (near peak freq, usually less than a little), gain and bandwith or Q.
Set it in that order. Gain value is correct when peak is reduced it strength to near normal level. While bandwith is not yet setting correct, let put a small value, or high Q fator. Then hear and adjust. It makes ease of find correct Gain. With not suit bandwith, peak is reduced by gain (minus) but will have 2 small peak nearby original peak. Increase or decrease bandwith (or Q) until no peak or just one original peak but mostly reduced to ground level
 

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