Oh really? It’s been a while since I heard the V2, so I could be remembering wrong. Timbre isn’t really correct on my 8XX’s either. The best I’ve heard classical guitar timbre (I’m a classical guitarist) was on the ZMF Atrium, so maybe piano would sound good there too. Or maybe go with a classic HD600.Because the timbre is not correct. I had the cans for a long time and I played for 10+ yrs (wouldn’t call myself a pianist )
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End-game for classical music
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hah! I call myself an amateur pianist, sure you are one too. just because I practice every day and have an acoustic piano. But not a pianist in the sense I have a degree and charge people to listen to me hahaBecause the timbre is not correct. I had the cans for a long time and I played for 10+ yrs (wouldn’t call myself a pianist )
Hmm ok well polarizing opinions to be expected...
I will keep researching. Thanks for your input guys
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Piano is tricky to record and tricky to play back, every brand and model sounds different and different pianists playing on the same piano can generate different sounds/tones. My picks are the cans that help approximate what I think (in my head) the piano would have actually sounded like if I were playing or standing right behind the pianist.Oh really? It’s been a while since I heard the V2, so I could be remembering wrong. Timbre isn’t really correct on my 8XX’s either. The best I’ve heard classical guitar timbre (I’m a classical guitarist) was on the ZMF Atrium, so maybe piano would sound good there too. Or maybe go with a classic HD600.
800S needs some TP love to bring down the upper mid/lower treble and a powerful/synergetic amp to bring up the lower mid and mid bass.
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I was just listening to the 2023 Berlin Philharmonic recording of Rach 2 with Kirill Gerstein on my HD600's, and man they nail it. No need to even try switching to my ZMF's or HD8XX. What a phenomenal performance/recording, and a great example of when Dolby Atmos actually works.
Man... it's amazing... Berlin Philarmonic obviously did a great job at this. I feel like recording quality specially ones from DG really stepped their game in the recent years. Things sound clearer and deeper than ever
Speaking of one of DG's better recordings, do check out Gershwin's "An American in Paris" perf. James Levine, CSO. The perfect demo for testing sound stage, imaging, instrument separation, the whole 9 yards. Brilliant listen on my HD800S, and a reminder why they'll belong to me for life.
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Dear God, what nonsense.I can tell you right now that $1900 will not be close to end game. You will need to add an 0 to it at a minimum.
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And this is your view based on experience? Tell us a sub $1,900 system that you believe is “end game” for classical.Dear God, what nonsense.
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The HD800 is the most iconic and best value for money.
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Lots of spicy takes here.
First off please don’t listen to someone who claims $1900 isn’t enough and you need to spend $19,000 for “true” end game. That’s a preposterous statement and completely ridiculous. Especially coming from someone who doesn’t own a headphone even close to that amount.
The usual suspects are all good options.
HD800S is lovely for classical but it needs a warmer tube source and its timbre can be tricky to nail down.
Grado GS3000x on tubes sounds amazing with cello and violin heavy classical but even on tubes they’re a bit bass light. With a touch of EQ they’re awesome though.
HE1000V2 or SE are both phenomenal for classical but also source picky and in my opinion both need a warmer tube source as well.
Obviously a properly powered Susvara can’t be beat and wins hands down in virtually all categories especially for Piano heavy classical.
Warwick Bravura is incredible for classical and can be had for relatively cheap when you factor in the secondary market and the fact that it’s an all in one.
Bottom line there’s a ton of great options at all price ranges. It’s just a matter of choosing what your definition of end game budget is and where you’d like to stop.
First off please don’t listen to someone who claims $1900 isn’t enough and you need to spend $19,000 for “true” end game. That’s a preposterous statement and completely ridiculous. Especially coming from someone who doesn’t own a headphone even close to that amount.
The usual suspects are all good options.
HD800S is lovely for classical but it needs a warmer tube source and its timbre can be tricky to nail down.
Grado GS3000x on tubes sounds amazing with cello and violin heavy classical but even on tubes they’re a bit bass light. With a touch of EQ they’re awesome though.
HE1000V2 or SE are both phenomenal for classical but also source picky and in my opinion both need a warmer tube source as well.
Obviously a properly powered Susvara can’t be beat and wins hands down in virtually all categories especially for Piano heavy classical.
Warwick Bravura is incredible for classical and can be had for relatively cheap when you factor in the secondary market and the fact that it’s an all in one.
Bottom line there’s a ton of great options at all price ranges. It’s just a matter of choosing what your definition of end game budget is and where you’d like to stop.
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End game type threads shouldn't be allowed. End game is snake oil, it's not real
jonathan c
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"End Game" in headphone / personal audio ....
bagwell359
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YesLots of spicy takes here.
First off please don’t listen to someone who claims $1900 isn’t enough and you need to spend $19,000 for “true” end game. That’s a preposterous statement and completely ridiculous. Especially coming from someone who doesn’t own a headphone even close to that amount.
YesHD800S is lovely for classical but it needs a warmer tube source and its timbre can be tricky to nail down.
Or a R2R DAC with a Class A (sliding bias or full tilt)HE1000V2 or SE are both phenomenal for classical but also source picky and in my opinion both need a warmer tube source as well.
Some rapturous reviews on the DCA Either 3, but I haven't heard it. ZMF Aueter good for a warmer take.Obviously a properly powered Susvara can’t be beat and wins hands down in virtually all categories especially for Piano heavy classical.
Bottom line there’s a ton of great options at all price ranges. It’s just a matter of choosing what your definition of end game budget is and where you’d like to stop.
pataburd
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On any random day--like today, the Ultrasone 780i PRO w/Forza AudioWorks Claire Hybrid hpc are plenty enough "endgame" Classical for these ears.
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