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I love the Allman Brothers. They weren't commercially popular at all in the 70's. They couldn't sell out large venues even though they were primarily a live band. They had one top 10 hit (ironically one of their worst songs) after the death of their best musician, etc etc
What influence did Boston wield on other groups? They had one significant album that was admittedly gigantic (one of my favorite albums of all time). Clapton was putting out absolute crap for the majority of the 70's, Dylan wasn't nearly the cultural icon people ascribe him to be and couldn't really be heard on the radio outside of a short two year period.
You are making a great case for what I'm talking about. If someone puts the Allman Brothers out there like they were "important" in the 70's, they are MAKING STUFF UP. They were important in retrospect, but they were a cult type band in the 70s. I know because my father was a roadie for them. They gained their greatest fame because Cher married Greg Allman. They then later became a staple of classic rock radio, but that doesn't mean they were actually big in the 70s.
WHich would be fine, but you then criticize bands I mentioned, who all, as in every single one, have sold more albums than the allman brothers did in the 70s as not being mainstream or significant enough. And if you're stating influence, you can't gauge influence until YEARS later. Again, nobody thought the velvet underound would even be moderately influential in the 70s. Same for the Sex Pistols and The Clash.
And yes, total album sales are great for those 70's bands, but not IN THE 70s. You're including sales for the 30 years since. Who knows how many albums MGMT will sale in 30 more years, or even if the album will be an art form by then. The only bands you listed that sold a ton of albums in the 70s was Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, The Eagles (though they sold ady albums in the 80s as they did the 70s) and Clapton (and most of Clapton's commercially succesful albums are looked down upon and not played today).
In the 30 years since the 70s, we have come to believe that the radio was classic rock radio. That the Allman Brothers Band were commercially successful, that Dylan was all over the radio in those golden years. That every kid or even half of them was listening to Black Sabbath. None of it is actually true.
Originally Posted by baka1969 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I must diagree with you. Disco didn't really explode until the late 70's. Rock most certainly outsold disco during that entire decade. Only a few of the groups you've listed have any real impact in today's music. Groups such as Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Clapton, Dylan, Hendrix, Boston, The Eagles, Lennon, Allan Brothers, Neil Young and a list at least twice or three times as long as you've mentioned have had a greater influence on music. Album sales for the individual groups of the 70's are also greater. Not that sales are an absolute indicator but it's part. |
I love the Allman Brothers. They weren't commercially popular at all in the 70's. They couldn't sell out large venues even though they were primarily a live band. They had one top 10 hit (ironically one of their worst songs) after the death of their best musician, etc etc
What influence did Boston wield on other groups? They had one significant album that was admittedly gigantic (one of my favorite albums of all time). Clapton was putting out absolute crap for the majority of the 70's, Dylan wasn't nearly the cultural icon people ascribe him to be and couldn't really be heard on the radio outside of a short two year period.
You are making a great case for what I'm talking about. If someone puts the Allman Brothers out there like they were "important" in the 70's, they are MAKING STUFF UP. They were important in retrospect, but they were a cult type band in the 70s. I know because my father was a roadie for them. They gained their greatest fame because Cher married Greg Allman. They then later became a staple of classic rock radio, but that doesn't mean they were actually big in the 70s.
WHich would be fine, but you then criticize bands I mentioned, who all, as in every single one, have sold more albums than the allman brothers did in the 70s as not being mainstream or significant enough. And if you're stating influence, you can't gauge influence until YEARS later. Again, nobody thought the velvet underound would even be moderately influential in the 70s. Same for the Sex Pistols and The Clash.
And yes, total album sales are great for those 70's bands, but not IN THE 70s. You're including sales for the 30 years since. Who knows how many albums MGMT will sale in 30 more years, or even if the album will be an art form by then. The only bands you listed that sold a ton of albums in the 70s was Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, The Eagles (though they sold ady albums in the 80s as they did the 70s) and Clapton (and most of Clapton's commercially succesful albums are looked down upon and not played today).
In the 30 years since the 70s, we have come to believe that the radio was classic rock radio. That the Allman Brothers Band were commercially successful, that Dylan was all over the radio in those golden years. That every kid or even half of them was listening to Black Sabbath. None of it is actually true.