Does scratches on a CD effect sound quality besides skipping?

Mar 31, 2015 at 2:02 AM Post #78 of 86
How? It's just reading hills and valleys denoted as either/or...and the technology has been demonstrated to function flawlessly. (For example, by ripping CDs and analyzing the data with computers.) Anyway, the burden of proof lies on the ones making these claims, so I feel further speculation is best avoided. If they want to convince us of anything, it's up to them...but I won't hold my breath for it to be done in a manner remotely resembling the scientific method.


I think you may be confusing folks sharing their experience with trying to convince someone. Ultimately, what do any of us with good analog systems and studio-quality CD recorders care? I sure don't. Wanna listen to whatever strikes you, fine with me. As for the Scientific Method, it is actually a 5-step process. One may want to note the first step before evoking the idea of "science."

Best thread of the day. :D
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 11:30 AM Post #79 of 86
I think you may be confusing folks sharing their experience with trying to convince someone. Ultimately, what do any of us with good analog systems and studio-quality CD recorders care? I sure don't. Wanna listen to whatever strikes you, fine with me. As for the Scientific Method, it is actually a 5-step process. One may want to note the first step before evoking the idea of "science."

Best thread of the day.
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hehe, that's true. We need to first ask a question to determine what is being examined. I just don't like the idea of wasting money on more expensive equipment that doesn't give objectively better sound quality...but at the same time, I lust after four-to-seven-figure gear. haha
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 11:43 AM Post #80 of 86
hehe, that's true. We need to first ask a question to determine what is being examined. I just don't like the idea of wasting money on more expensive equipment that doesn't give objectively better sound quality...but at the same time, I lust after four-to-seven-figure gear. haha


Maybe it would be more fun to promote this myth. Then in a few years, we could have a head-fi thread arguing over whether the $100 CD with Nikon glass is of equal sound quality to the $150 version of the CD with Leica glass. :p

But more seriously, if there was an accuracy benefit to using glass, don't people think that it would have been used at the stage that DVD or Blu-ray was developed, given their higher bit density?
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 11:50 AM Post #81 of 86
Maybe it would be more fun to promote this myth. Then in a few years, we could have a head-fi thread arguing over whether the $100 CD with Nikon glass is of equal sound quality to the $150 version of the CD with Leica glass. :p

But more seriously, if there was an accuracy benefit to using glass, don't people think that it would have been used at the stage that DVD or Blu-ray was developed, given their higher bit density?


FWIW, the predominant opinion of glass CDs, in the high-performance community, mirrors yours. I true first, I think.

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Mar 31, 2015 at 12:13 PM Post #82 of 86
Maybe it would be more fun to promote this myth. Then in a few years, we could have a head-fi thread arguing over whether the $100 CD with Nikon glass is of equal sound quality to the $150 version of the CD with Leica glass.
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LOL! I wonder how many conspiracy theories are started by someone who knows it's bogus and just likes to watch people squirm.
 
And now I'm thinking about the fancy slide film and lenses I used to use with my old manual camera.
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 12:26 PM Post #83 of 86
Maybe it would be more fun to promote this myth. Then in a few years, we could have a head-fi thread arguing over whether the $100 CD with Nikon glass is of equal sound quality to the $150 version of the CD with Leica glass. :p

But more seriously, if there was an accuracy benefit to using glass, don't people think that it would have been used at the stage that DVD or Blu-ray was developed, given their higher bit density?


Plastic is way more cost effective. These types of media are for mass consumption and need to be priced accordingly to manufacture and sell as much as possible to the average consumer.
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 12:34 PM Post #84 of 86
Plastic is way more cost effective. These types of media are for mass consumption and need to be priced accordingly to manufacture and sell as much as possible to the average consumer.


I suspect it has more to do with glass not offering any benefit in accuracy. :)
 
Mar 31, 2015 at 6:07 PM Post #86 of 86
hahaha Audiophile logic vs. Big Business logic.


It's a matter of culture, not audio orientation or experience. East vs West. It's nothing new. This time the pawn is a glass CD. It's no different than Shun Mook wood pucks from years ago, or any other number of products (that seem silly) aimed at a very specific market sector.
 

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