Does iPod get better with burn-in?

Dec 20, 2005 at 11:59 AM Post #16 of 43
OK , what is happening within your ipod that changes? capacitors and transistors take less than a second to reach there correct operating levels.
Speakers may sound better after a lot of use but WHAT IS IT that would make an Ipod or any other Digital Audio Player sound better? The headphone amp for instance , what changes are you talking about that would after an amount of time inprove the sound output?
These "burn-in" effects can only be experienced through either speakers or headphones , objects that can sound different if you have them on slightly differently or the volume slightly higher.
I challenge anyone to prove burn in on an ipod!
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 12:32 PM Post #17 of 43
In my opinion "burn in" is only a property of mechanical systems such as loudspeakers/headphones etc.

Although I noticed my digital watch has "burn in" it tells the time 55.76% more accurately after 50hrs and 25mins of use after I bought it. Cosmic rays accelerate the electrons from the battery making them travel 0.05% faster than usual, negating the effects of any resistance and keeping the time better. I actually saw the cosmic rays and if I listen carefully enough I can tell the SQ of the beeper alarm is way better now after burn in.....before it was like this: beeep, beep, beeeep, beeep but now with uber quality burn in it is like: beep, beep, beep, beep. Wow man far out!
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hehe sorry couldn't resist...no offense intended
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Dec 20, 2005 at 2:36 PM Post #18 of 43
There may be chemical changes in time with the componentry involved which changes the sound. I'm not going to discount it as an academic concept totally, but as far as practical changes are considered... I very much doubt it.
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 3:09 PM Post #19 of 43
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I challenge anyone to prove burn in on an ipod!


Ok I accept your challenge. PM me for my address and send me an ipod nano unit. I will tell you if its brand new or if it already has been used for more than 3 days.
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 3:16 PM Post #20 of 43
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Originally Posted by erickoh
Ok I accept your challenge. PM me for my address and send me an ipod nano unit. I will tell you if its brand new or if it already has been used for more than 3 days.


I will send you my 20 minute old Ipoo , its brown and revolutionary, you can mould it to any shape and plug your earphones in anywhere!
Instead of being encrusted with diamonds like P Diddys its encrusted with peanuts and sweetcorn!
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 5:01 PM Post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by erickoh
Ok I accept your challenge. PM me for my address and send me an ipod nano unit. I will tell you if its brand new or if it already has been used for more than 3 days.


LOL excellent come back. Yes and send me one too and I'll "test" it hehe
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Dec 20, 2005 at 9:11 PM Post #22 of 43
I never said that the iPod will benefit from burn-in greatly. But it is true nevertheless that with any analogic circuit, like opamps, which are the heart of any solid-state amplifier, burn-in does occur. Just go to the Amps Forum and you will see that many experienced Head-fiers relate to this ideea. For example:

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Originally Posted by john_jcb
I have found that the op amps benefit a little from burn in. It is not very much but they do seem to change a small amount with time. I also think that people make too much of burn in with amps. While I can hear changes it has never been as dramatic as the claims you read. The real way to tell is to have two identical amps and with different hours. See if you hear any difference.


Just do a search for Burn-in and you will see for yourselves.
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 10:38 PM Post #23 of 43
I would also like to try. If anyone would like to send me one brand new iPod 5G and one "burned in" iPod 5G and see if I can identify which is which, PM me.
 
Dec 21, 2005 at 12:20 AM Post #24 of 43
From my experience, players with digital amps definately get noticeably better (specificly louder, with less hiss if you use low impedance headphones). I don't believe the Ipod has a digital amp, so I doubt you'll notice much difference overtime. I once had a common pcdp that had an analog amp, just like most players; had almost no noticeable difference overtime...my headphones (at the time, they were HD497s, unamped) were burned with this player. Then when I got my player with a digital amp (keep in mind, this was a pcdp too; and I used the same headphones, unamped), there was DEFINATELY a noticeable difference overtime (I wasn't even thinking about burn-in or whatever; just enjoying it and all, but then it was like "BAM"....It sounds DIFFERENT from when I first got it! The line-out is so much louder than than the headphone-out when both amped; things seem to be very slightly getting better even today; but now I've been using an amp and better headphones). I say, just don't worry too much about this kind of stuff...if anything gets better, or whatever, it's best to just enjoy the sounds...not analyze them.
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Dec 21, 2005 at 3:12 AM Post #25 of 43
CPU's burn in - its a well known fact - dac's are cpu - so will burn in! With my DAP's Im sure if I dont use them for a while they they sound brighter and less bass - if In useral use they start to warm up ... No Ive got highly trained ears - 4 degree's in music and these differances are so small 99% of public wont hear it - I can hear burn in but only if I really listen for it.
 
Dec 21, 2005 at 3:41 AM Post #26 of 43
Oh, yeah. That makes sense...I think I get it (I was using a pcdp that was not very good in the first place). I'm assuming the better the system is, the more noticible the changes are (all those higher quality digital components; match much better with the analog parts, then with lower quality players). Anyways, right now, I'm so picky, that I will only buy the Kenwood DAPs (I'll not settle for anything lower quality than that)...sorry Ipod fans!
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Dec 21, 2005 at 9:39 PM Post #27 of 43
I dunno.. I think my nano sounds better than it did when I first got it. I've put about 100 hours on it..
 
Dec 21, 2005 at 9:43 PM Post #28 of 43
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Originally Posted by K2Grey
I would also like to try. If anyone would like to send me one brand new iPod 5G and one "burned in" iPod 5G and see if I can identify which is which, PM me.


You would know, 'cos of the scratches
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Dec 21, 2005 at 9:45 PM Post #29 of 43
I find there's a sort of "burn in" with CD players and other electronics that comes from simply keeping them in regular use. They seem to function best after being used regularly for awhile, and if they sit unused for long periods you tend to encounter issues like skipping and poor sound quality when you start using them again. Talking about general function though, not just sound.
 
Dec 21, 2005 at 9:46 PM Post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by Veggie_Musician
CPU's burn in - its a well known fact


What exactly changes? Can you reference a website? Dont get me wrong; Im more curious than sceptical...

And I must say: with every subjective thing like this, getting "used" to a certain sound could mean a night-and-day difference. In my experience anyway.
 

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