Do you usually scan your library for “fake” highres?

Sep 19, 2024 at 3:15 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

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I’m slowly building my music library; most of it is flac ripped from my CDs, 24 bit flac collected during the years (bought, downloaded etc) some dsd.
Is there a way to find out if they’re real, not upsampled or ripped from vinyl, corrupted etc?
If yes what do you use with Mac?
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Sep 19, 2024 at 3:34 AM Post #2 of 10
The telltale is the background noise to tell if it's a vinyl rip or digital. The best place is just Qobuz in 44.1khz 16 bit. Sony Redbook standard covers the whole range of human hearing. Also I do it since that format is what sounds best on a car stereo since they don't up or down sample very well most times.
I've gotten some DSF supercd files and you can tell during the quiet parts the needle sound from a turntable can be heard. Qobuz never fell for the MQA debacle, so they sound really good.
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 6:51 AM Post #3 of 10
There are issues with the standard for what's defined as hires in the first place. When you can get stuff from the 60s in hires, clearly the concept is about the resolution of the first digital conversion and not about an idea of sound quality or clean recording.
There are various ways to catch the idiots who straight up oversampled(just by getting no content above a given frequency), and for some simple digitized files with no trick to them, maybe something like Musicscope(if it still exists?) would do.
But for anybody who's actively trying to pass content as hires, unless he's a moron, it's going to be extremely hard or impossible to know.

I've stopped caring about all that, if it sounds bad to me for any reason(from artistic taste to recording conditions), I get rid of it and that's that. It doesn't actually relate to being hires or not. In practice, we know that redbook can sound just like the rest, even research supporting some impact on humans, still confirm that they typically fail a blind test. So without a specific issue, does it matter? And if it was so night and day different, wouldn't all the self proclaims golden ear audiophiles be able to tell immediately without some app?
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 6:57 AM Post #4 of 10
I was wondering, first because I hate to waste storage for useless big files, and then because while listening to old things, I found out some of my albums where ripped from vinyls, and actually some of them don’t sound that good.
That’s why I was wondering if there was a way to scan all my library and get rid of everything unnecessary.
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 7:51 AM Post #5 of 10
That’s why I was wondering if there was a way to scan all my library and get rid of everything unnecessary.
No, there isn’t. Maybe in the future AI will be able to do this but it’s not possible currently. For example, how can software detect if a noisy recording is due to it being a vinyl rip or if it is actually a hi-res recording with a lot of noise (say if a noisy guitar amp setting was used by a musician or other noise was present or deliberately added when recording/mixing)? Additionally, while looking at a frequency cutoff point can sometimes indicate an upsampled fake, it’s trivially easy to get around that detection method and some recordings don’t have anything above 22kHz anyway.

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Sep 19, 2024 at 8:24 AM Post #6 of 10
I was wondering, first because I hate to waste storage for useless big files, and then because while listening to old things, I found out some of my albums where ripped from vinyls, and actually some of them don’t sound that good.
That’s why I was wondering if there was a way to scan all my library and get rid of everything unnecessary.
A parallel to the (great!) above replies about hires: do you have an actual storage problem to solve? I understand your hate for wasted storage space, but if you have the space available, does it matter?

If you actually have storage space constraints, compressing everything to MP3 256 or 320 kps should address it, and still be audibly-transparent…
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 8:47 AM Post #7 of 10
A parallel to the (great!) above replies about hires: do you have an actual storage problem to solve? I understand your hate for wasted storage space, but if you have the space available, does it matter?

If you actually have storage space constraints, compressing everything to MP3 256 or 320 kps should address it, and still be audibly-transparent…
No, don’t have storage problems, but I hate everything is useless, such as big fake flac files that sound like mp3.

After being able to enjoy 24 bit music and DSDs I started rebuilding my library, especially for music I consider worthy of, so no point in getting back to mp3; I’ll reserve that option for music in can’t have ripped from cds.
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 9:19 AM Post #8 of 10
I think you are over-thinking this. Life is too short; just use your ears, enjoy the music, and use your time to explore new music. If you can't hear an obvious problem and need some software to help you go look for one, then why worry about it?
 
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:28 AM Post #9 of 10
No, don’t have storage problems, but I hate everything is useless, such as big fake flac files that sound like mp3.

After being able to enjoy 24 bit music and DSDs I started rebuilding my library, especially for music I consider worthy of, so no point in getting back to mp3; I’ll reserve that option for music in can’t have ripped from cds.
Well… if you hate everything useless, then convert all your hires files to redbook CD and be done! :ksc75smile:
 

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