Digital music libraries and devices portend death of hi-fi sound
Apr 18, 2007 at 2:42 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 24

archosman

Songs From The Crystal Cave
Joined
Feb 19, 2002
Posts
3,633
Likes
10
By Ron Harris
ADVERTISEMENT

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Music lovers remember a familiar advertising image from the past: a man reclined in a chair, head back, blown away by music from his high-fidelity sound system.

Like the Marlboro Man before him, Maxell's pitchman is now a relic. With their ability to store vast libraries of music in your pocket, sleek digital music players have replaced bulky home stereo systems as the music gear of choice. But the sound quality of digital audio files is noticeably inferior to that of compact discs and even vinyl.

Are these the final days of hi-fi sound? Judging by the two billion songs downloaded from Apple Inc.'s iTunes service, the ubiquity of white iPod "ear buds," and the hundreds of thousands of folks file-sharing for free, the answer is yes.

"In many ways, good enough (sound quality) is fine," said Paul Connolly, an art installation specialist and longtime audiophile from Sugar Land, Texas, who's now in the process of digitizing his 2,400 CD collection in Apple's lossless digital audio format.

"The warmth and the nice distortion that the album had was beautiful," he said. "But do I long for the days of albums? No. Do I long for the days of CDs now that we've gone digital? No. It's a medium."

Justin Schoenmoser, of San Francisco, also traded in his rack system for an iPod. Currently working abroad and toting along his iPod, the convenience of carrying thousands of songs in a gadget smaller than a pack of cigarettes outweighs the sacrifice of quality.

"The last time I had a full-blown home stereo system was in the mid-'90s, and it was a gift from my parents," Schoenmoser said. "As I converted most of my stuff to digital over the last five years, I finally got rid of all my old equipment."

A song ripped from a CD at 128 kilobits per second - the default setting for most software - retains only a fraction of the audio data contained on the originally mastered disc. Whether you downloaded the track from iTunes or copped it off LimeWire, the song remains the same. The small digital music file is a highly compressed shadow of the originally mastered recording.

And regardless of how advanced your home audio setup is, if you're pumping a low-rate MP3 or iTunes file into it, you're getting a low-rate rendition of the original song out of it. It's listenable, but still lacking the lustre of a CD played on the same system.

Some experts say the sound quality lost in the process is undetectable to most untrained ears. But Michael Silver can hear the difference.

Audio High, his high-end stereo shop in Mountain View, sells things like a US$5,000 needle for your turntable and stereo cable at $2,700 a metre.

"It doesn't compare," Silver said of the sound quality offered by today's portable digital music players and their compressed audio files.

If his high-end gear is like a Ferrari for sound, and run-of-the-mill stereo equipment is a Honda, "a moped is an iPod," Silver said.

That difference in sound quality, perceptible or not, hasn't saved some of the bigger traditional stereo and music sellers.

Tweeter Home Entertainment Group Inc., a Canton, Mass.-based retailer of mid-to-high end audio equipment, is closing 49 of its 153 U.S. stores. Slumping sales at Sacramento, Calif.-based Tower Records led that former industry juggernaut to declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in August.

And Circuit City, the No. 2 electronics retailer in the U.S., is laying off 3,400 of its most experienced clerks.

Year-to-date data from a recent Nielsen SoundScan report shows sales of prerecorded CDs in the United States down 20 per cent from last year.

"Everybody has a certain amount of money to spend. It's not that they're choosing not to spend it on the old-style audio. It's that something new came along," said James McQuivey, principle analyst for media technology at Forrester Research Inc.

"The MP3 player integrated the collection of the music with the playback of the music," he said. "Now all of it's seamlessley hidden away on a hard drive somewhere."

With the networked household ready to fill the void left by the demise of rack stereo systems, McQuivey sees a steady stream of new devices on the horizon that will erase any lingering drawbacks to going all-MP3.

Santa Barbara-based Sonos Inc., for example, sells a system that allows you to use a handheld device to navigate streamed music from your PC to an existing amp and speaker or home theatre setup, sort of a hybrid between the old guard and the new.

"A CD is not relevant to me anymore," said John MacFarlane, founder and chief executive of Sonos. "The iPod and that type of portable music player has even accelerated that trend."

Even when consumers do buy CDs these days, "the first thing you do is rip your CDs and put them on your iPods," MacFarlane said.

MacFarlane isn't even convinced that casual listeners can hear the difference between CD-quality sounds and the dumbed-down MP3 files, which he calls "good quality, not perfect."

"When Philips and Sony first made the CD, they didn't cut any corners because they were careful to preserve everything that was there, even if you couldn't hear it," MacFarlane said. "That 128 is pretty darn good. A lot of PhDs went in to making that 128 kbps work well and sound well.

Schoenmoser, the globetrotting Californian, agrees.

"I honestly can't really tell the difference between CD, tape and digital," he said. "I'd even accept a lower quality as long as it's digital and portable."

rolleyes.gif




http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0..._lo_fi_america
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:22 AM Post #4 of 24
i enjoy this article. like anyone has ever given a damn about sound quality, i really doubt that the ipod is making all audiophiles sell their systems. half of the article is pointing out the obvious (128kbps sounds bad) and the other half is plain bs (lossless files sound worse than cds).... and of course testimonial from a guy who sells sky-high priced cables and record styluses. i hate hifi snobbery. and the guy who sold it all for an ipod? good for him. he's enjoying the music. i am all digital, but also all lossless (besides portable). i detect no difference whatsoever between cds and eac ripped files. i don't think some people understand what lossless means... and the ipod didn't kill tower records and 50 tweeter stores. online retailing did. also, everyone's favorite hifi shop, circuit city! and yes, digital music sales are killing cd sales; since record sales haven't been declining at all for the last ten years.

i think i should start a blog. "hi fi is totally punk rock". i will support nothing but digital files and solid state amplifiers and vaguely touch on the bad parts of vinyl, cds and tubes without touching on the goods. "vinyl might wear out, and also it may attract dust unless you're careful! tubes are kinda hot and they make light which might upset my feng shui!! cds only last a few decades and also did you know that some releases of cds sound worse than others? wooohooo!!!!!"

that'd rule. yeah.
rolleyes.gif
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:29 AM Post #6 of 24
Quote:

When Philips and Sony first made the CD, they didn't cut any corners because they were careful to preserve everything that was there, even if you couldn't hear it


lol wut?
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:36 AM Post #7 of 24
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thelonious Monk /img/forum/go_quote.gif
like anyone has ever given a damn about sound quality,


That's what I was thinking. Is that really news? Was there a time when a "hi-fi" stereo system was a must in every household? I'm only 31, so perhaps someone could clarify this for me.

I also wonder where home theater fits in with this. I would think that would be considered another avenue for fidelity.

And lastly, let's say I'm mad and don't want to take it anymore. What can I do?
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:36 AM Post #8 of 24
What a pile of worthless crap. The sad thing is that the quality of news reported by the media is the same across the board. The same people that wrote this also cover middle east politics, the economy, etc. We dont really realize how bad it all is until they write an article about headphones and miss the mark by a mile.
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:42 AM Post #10 of 24
I submit that the mid-fi of today beats the living hell out of the mid-fi of 20 or even 10 years ago.

We're getting better sound out of 160k mp3s than any cassette tape could have hoped for.
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:46 AM Post #11 of 24
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericj /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I submit that the mid-fi of today beats the living hell out of the mid-fi of 20 or even 10 years ago.

We're getting better sound out of 160k mp3s than any cassette tape could have hoped for.



Ahh, yes, but nothing can touch the vinyl.
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 3:52 AM Post #12 of 24
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericj /img/forum/go_quote.gif
We're getting better sound out of 160k mp3s than any cassette tape could have hoped for.


Dunno. A top-end Nakamichi that's been modified the hell out of fed into a nice amp and speakers will easily hold its own against an iPod even when the latter is playing ALAC files.


Quote:

Originally Posted by xedan 3rG DtNx /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Ahh, yes, but nothing can touch the vinyl.


*cough*Reel to reel*cough*
 
Apr 18, 2007 at 4:00 AM Post #14 of 24
Cassette tape, like VHS, is actually capable of some very very high quality audio.

Just that the second or third time you listen or view, even on very good decks, its started to smear. Analogue tape of the more-practical-than-RTR size didn't have problems with fidelity per se, but with wear. DAT sort of resolved this. Trouble was that cassette tape was the best thing since sliced bread for portable audio, because it allowed for very long battery life. And as portable audio doesn't need high quality anyway. There was never much big support for top notch tape. Even where there was, its not any longer a sensible option when Minidisc, CD burners, solid state et al. are all now around.

As for digital music libraries meaning the death of hi-fi. I also think thats the latest in a series of false alarms. Every new audio technology seems to be the death of hi-fi. Real Hi-Fi, has and will always be a niche market area compared to consumer grade audio. Just because the technology which was built for the consumer grade is bleeding into the hi-fi arena, doesn't mean that hi-fi is dying. Its just using new tech.

Theres a whole range of related arguments around these topics. One of my favourites of which is the debate over the "devaluing" of the music experience. A sort of tie in with the "they dont make albums like they used to crowd". Theres also the continual battle ont he part of the record companies not only to get us to buy their product, and to buy it new and repeatedly, but also their continuing efforts to control and dictate absolutely what we can then do with that music once we have bought it (again).

Its not wonder there are so many countless countless blogs, thread, magazine articles etc about all this crap and much as I'd love to continue ranting on, its definitely bedtime.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top