[j2kei]

i find the sound of the atrio m5/m8 muddy with the stock bi-flanges. from my finding, i find that the stock foam provided removes that muddiness, however the cost of using foam is pretty expensive and i like the easy pop in/out that silicon sleeves give. please share your experiences with different silicon tips that work with the atrio m5/m8. so far my only other finding is the grey sleeves from shure SE iems

(please dont say use shure olives, as i tried those and i find them loose on the atrio that im afraid i might them whenever i take my itouch2 and atrio out of my pocket)