[lucky_star]

Hi all,
I have just started this hobby recently. Therefore, I don't have a chance to audition the W10VTG, ath-ad2000 or W11JPN. I am owning the denon d5000(my past phone is w5000 which is sold due to fitness problem).
I love the w5000 but the sound become thinner due to fitness.
can anyone ,who has a chance to listen to either W10VTG,ad2000(i can find a lot of review about this phone: sweet midrange for sure) or W11JPN, tell me how these phone will be compared to denon d5000 or w5000?
I like to listen to pop/rock with big soundstage, detail, sweet midrange (warm or clear or bass isn't very important)
thanks

 

[Rednamalas1]

so you're looking for bass-heavy phones? or bass-light phones?

AD2K is a great all-rounder without any glaring faults. Beautiful midrange with just right amount of bass and tons of detail that can be also fun. they do excellent job of bringing out emotion from singing IMO. Bass and treble extension is quite impressive as well.
I don't consider their soundstage to be small, but not stadium-big as in K501s either.

 

[lucky_star]

i think i am not a bassheader. I got the original denon d5000 but i think its bass is too much for me. After asking Markl to mod the d5000, i love the denon more now

 

[lucky_star]

how about W10VTG or W11JPN. It is too hard to find the review of them and the comparison due to their discontinuity

 

[lucky_star]

i wonder whether the sound of W11jpn will be better than w5000(in the case that we didn't have a fitness problem for w5000)?

 

[Rednamalas1]

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Originally Posted by lucky_star /img/forum/go_quote.gif how about W10VTG or W11JPN. It is too hard to find the review of them and the comparison due to their discontinuity

From what I have heard, (I have only listened to W11JPN on a brief occasion) they seemed to be quite colored, not an all-rounder like AD2Ks are. Given their high price tag, I would hold off on them unless you are looking for a specialist in certain genres of music. AD2K is a "safe" bet in my opinion.

I'll let someone else who has owned W11 and W10 to chime in instead.

 

[waddragon]

how about the soundstage of ad2000 is compared to denon d5000?
if it is bigger, then i think i should go for ad2000 because for me right now modded d5000's soundstage is pretty good.

 

[musicmind]

Lucky_star and waddragon, you might find the review in my signature useful to understand how the AD2000 sounds relative to the D5000.
In my opinion, the AD2000 has a larger sense of soundstage and air compared to the D5000.

 

[outbreak123]

@Rednamalas1

Is AD2000 quite a bass heavy can? i'm thinking about purchasing it next month.

Thanks

 

[Henmyr]

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Originally Posted by outbreak123 /img/forum/go_quote.gif @Rednamalas1 Is AD2000 quite a bass heavy can? i'm thinking about purchasing it next month. Thanks

I don't know if my pair is completely burned in yet (around 24 hours), but with my source and amp, the AD2000 is in no way a bass heavy can. It's about the same as DT880 for me, or maybe just slightly less.

It was hard to know what to think about them since some people called them bass heavy and some bass light.

 

[musicmind]

outbreak, I dont find the AD2000 to be a bass heavy can at all, the Denon 5000 and HD650 are much more bassier in signature.

 

[Gradofan2]

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Originally Posted by outbreak123 /img/forum/go_quote.gif @Rednamalas1 Is AD2000 quite a bass heavy can? i'm thinking about purchasing it next month. Thanks

The AD2K has great bass - deep, extended, prominent, tight with great impact. The bass does not extend as much into the lower mids, as the HD650 does - so the HD650 gives the impression that it has a bit more bass prominence. The bass on the AD2K is cleaner, faster, more precise - some would describe it as less "boomy" than the HD650 (without a huge investment in setup). The AD2K has a slightly leaner sound, with much greater clarity - similar to the RS-1.

If you're a "basshead" who values "big bass" over other attributes - such as clarity, detail, air, PRAT, etc. - then you will be more pleased with the HD650. Or, if you plan to spend the "big bucks" on your set up - you may prefer the HD650.

On the other hand... if you value those other attibutes, with good bass, which doesn't overwhelm the mids and highs - then you will be more pleased with the AD2K - especially, if you don't plan to spend the "big bucks" on your set up.

 

[outbreak123]

okay, guys thanks for the replies. I've been thinking about AD2000, seeing some people says that they are a bass heavy phone. Maybe a HD650 will satisfy me? I've tried AD900 before and the clarity is really nice with some bass. so i think an AD2000 could be really nice for a basshead needs and they have excellent clarity and soundstage.

And yes, i'm planning quite big bucks for my next home setup.

Thanks

 

[TKvC-SainT]

One thing that I´ve been wondering for a while now is how does the deeper regions of bass of the AD2ks compare to the HD650s?

I recently auditioned a pair of HD650s that have been used very much (so they were burnt in and also had no clamping that I´ve been reading about on this forum). And I don´t think they had just about any major flaws, except one that made me think if they would really work out in the long run, and that was that I felt that they somehow missed the lowest of bass. Like for example when I listened to the track Master's Apprentices by Opeth from the record Lamentations (Live), I felt that the kickdrum didn´t have as much energy as I would like, it sounded a bit like ft-tt-ttt-tt and so on, instead it should be like dr-rr-rrr-rr.

I think that I would like the AD2ks as they have been described as having a similar signature as the ESW9s (which I felt were better than my K701s so those are now sold), and the ESW9s can make those kickdrums sound like I want them to.

 

[musicmind]

Yes, I think the AD2000 and ESW9 share some similarities with their bass performance, neither of them is boomy or loose in the bass area, but the ESW9 has less sense of texture and bass sounds a bit "thicker". The ESW9, perhaps because it makes firmer contact with the ear, has a little bit more sense of weight, but loses a bit of definition compared to the AD2000. For instance, when listening to an upright bass on the ESW9, the acoustic properties such as note decay are not as well produced. reproduced. Soundstage is also much more closed in. No surprise there, the AD2000 is great for giving a sense of space around acoustic instruments.
BTW, I was using the Headroom portable micro for the comparison.