DENAFRIPS Terminator & Jay’s Audio CDT-3 MK2, A Review
May 6, 2018 at 8:39 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 7

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Short and sweet, the DENAFRIPS Terminator is a very significant development for me, a game changer.

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If it is within your budget I highly recommend it for your consideration regardless of the top-end of your budget. Here is where I am coming from. I love music. My passion over a number of decades has been pursuing the hi-fi that can let me hear what musicians want to convey and involve me in their performances. My main rig is vinyl - Acoustical Systems Axiom Arm and Palladian Cartridge, Micro Seki 5000/5500 Turntable & HS-80 Flywheel, Acoustical Systems Omnigon Phono Preamp, custom 8W Class A battery monoblocks, Pioneer Exclusive TAD 2404 Studio Monitors & EnigmaAcoustics Sopranino Electrostatic Supertweeters. It has been a labour of love and undergone years of refinement and now to my ears delivers the musical information I need for me to become immersed in particularly well composed, performed and recorded vinyl.

I have two other rigs, both CD sourced. The first features Rey Audio Kinoshita KM1V Monitors driven by custom 8W Class A battery monoblocks fed by a modified Lightspeed Attenuator with a custom power supply featuring a hand-wound silver wire transformer. Each monoblock, despite its modest 8w Class A continuous rating has two 12v batteries that provide significant instant current.

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I listen to CDs for their convenience and the wealth of music that I cannot get on vinyl. But I have found my listening experience lacking, until recently. All is referential and I believe that my current personal standard of reproduction is based on the best that I have sampled to date and that is my vinyl system. If I had never heard this good vinyl playback I guess I would not have been so frustrated with digital. But things are changing for me.

With the Terminator, my digital home reproduction has finally gone from something that just allows me to hear my favourite digitally recorded music to something that makes me stop, focus and listen. The Terminator involves me in the music and every now and then I get that magical moment when the emotion of a track overcomes me. And how does it do that? Information! Information has great significance for my listening experience. What does more accurate information actually mean to me? We euphemistically say that we “see” or “hear”. Do we? My sight is like a digital camera – I have sensors, my eyes transmit the stimuli they have picked up, to my brain which then tries to make sense of the stimuli using a database of previous experiences, and then comes to a conclusion and tells me what I am seeing. This was demonstrated to me by instances where I was not wearing my distance glasses. Once I was walking along a track in low morning light and I saw something on the ground at a reasonable distance such that I could not “see” exactly what that something was. It was darkish and long and lying on the track up ahead of me. This was a potentially hazardous situation so the brain started working quickly. From the raw incomplete data it had it concluded that it was either a snake or a dead tree branch. I observed that as I walked closer and closer the sensory-computing system was looping – the eye sensors were picking up more data and the brain was recomputing it and comparing it to its database and concluding “inconclusive” and the process happened again and again until finally it had enough data and concluded it was a dried tree branch blown onto the path by the wind. And I observed another aspect of this process “filling in the blanks”. I had lost my glasses and had to drive to a location. I wondered how I could do that and found that since I had driven that road so many times in the past, what I could not actually see the brain was part filling in from memory. But this was a strain, a lot of work. My ear system works similarly transmitting sound stimuli it has picked up to my brain to make sense of it from its database of experiences. So the more information my hi-fi information produces and the more accurate that information is, the more easily and quickly I “hear” the music and the more believable and enjoyable becomes my listening experience.

This is cliché but true, with the Terminator every and I mean every CD is revealing treasures I have not heard before and allowing me to understand the music better. And this is to such a degree that I can better appreciate and get more involved in the music. I can hear so so much more in many regards and this is over the total frequency spectrum. I can hear more of the leading edges of guitar plucks. I can hear so much more of the tone and the inner detail of instruments. I can follow individual instruments better in the mix giving me a better understanding of the piece being played. The flow, rhythm, variation of pace and sound pressure are much better rendered bringing pieces alive. I thought I knew “Chester & Lester” by Chet Atkins and Les Paul
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but there is now so much more being reproduced to enthrall me. There is so much more inner detail and texture of instruments and voices and there is more air around them. Saint-Germain-des-Prés “Revisité” _DSC1122_DxO-4.jpg
is now soaked in ambience and the detail of the instruments and voices is now really something to hear. The Terminator’s reproduction of the midrange is particularly beautiful. Put on something like the excellently recorded “The Colonel & The Governor” by Tommy Emmanuel and Martin Taylor _DSC1125_DxO-3.jpg
and you can melt with their guitar tones. There is no embellishment here, just the richness of the natural tone. Dynamics and bass are excellent. Steely Dan’s “Two Against Nature” is now wonderfully taut and dynamic, giving the music the foundation that this brilliant duo envisaged.
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With a fine digital source the Terminator performs exceptionally well. The Jay Audio CDT-3 MK2 transport makes the Terminator sing beautifully. The Terminator allowed me to hear the significant improvement that the CDT-3 MK2 is over the already very good MK1. The Terminator scaled up wonderfully. I use the i2s HDMI connection between the two which allows the bypassing of the S/PIDF in the Terminator. The cable is modest 1m Belden HDMI HDE001MB. I hope to try an Audioquest Diamond HDMI cable and hear if it makes a difference.
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Let me take one aspect of the Terminator’s excellent performance to try and give you an example of what this DAC can do for me. I came home last night and put on “Accomplice One”, the latest CD by one of the greatest, Tommy Emmanuel.
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I was wasted after a particularly tough working day and normally with this frame of mind and depleted energy level I would find very fast and highly energetic tunes like track 4 and 5 with their frenetic string playing bordering on irritating. But not with the Terminator fed by the CDT-3 MK2. The rhythms were so well delineated and “pulsing”, and the string tones so beautifully harmonically fleshed out, that I was drawn in and engrossed.

Or take one of my all-time favourite CDs, Emilie-Claire Barlow’s “Like a Lover”. Ms Barlow’s voice is recorded close and “hot” making it very revealing but also bright sounding. And the bright recording of her voice in parts is telling of components that are not accurate and can make her voice sound harsh. Oh my, through the Terminator on a track like “The Things We Did Last Summer” the recording drips with detail, emotion and seduction. I felt like I was intimately and illegally close to this wonderful artist – the changes in tempo, intonation, modulation, sound pressure etc of her voice are beautifully revealed in outstanding detail and tone. And then there is the excellent texture and dynamics of the accompanying plucked upright bass.
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My second CD system features Stax SR-009 headphones driven by a Stax SRM-007tII amp, upgraded with Mundorf silver-in-oil caps. For the first time, thanks to the Terminator and CDT-3 pairing, I have started to hear what the Stax SR-009 is capable of, even driven by the Stax SRM-007tII which arguably does not have sufficient current to drive the 009 to their full potential. Current in this regard should not be confused with volume - I do not play my SRM-007tII much past 10 o’clock. I am for the first time appreciating listening to the 009 without feeling that they are being massively held back. I am awaiting a DIY T2 amp to replace the 007tII and look forward to this system scaling up.

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I was so taken with the Terminator driven by the Jay’s Audio CDT-3 MK2 that I have bought two sets of both, one for each system, and sold my previous digital gear which included an Esoteric K-03x. The Terminator blew away the Esoteric’s DAC and the CDT-3 MK1 blew away the Esoteric’s transport. The Terminator is finely built, an ergonomically excellent functional design, comes with a 3 year warranty, and most importantly sounds excellent. And for me it is a bargain at its price. I wholeheartedly recommend it and the excellent Jay’s Audio CDT-3 MK2 for your consideration. And last but not least, the worldwide distributor, Alvin of Vinshine Audio provides service second to none. Thanks for reading.
 
May 7, 2018 at 8:07 AM Post #3 of 7
Did you own any other top end DAC's besides the Esoteric to compare the Terminator with?

The Esoteric was the most recent commercial item. The best digital I had heard in my system and elsewhere was a non-commercial NAS CD ripping system with custom USB interface and with every item having its own hand-wound silver wire transformer PS starting with the NOS Macbook. The DAC featured 60 NOS computer chips and had no digital filtering, and had a separate PS with several hand-wound silver transformers. This system was designed and hand-made by a digital designer for a few friends and was never commercially released. It cost $40k for the playback equipment ie not including the ripping equipment. It was significantly better than the Esoteric. I prefer the Terminator fed by the Jay's Audio CDT-3 MK2 to my memory of that system.

You ask a valid question. But I am no consumer choice reviewer. All I am doing is letting people know that that this equipment is excellent and significant, especially given their modest prices in today's market. Head-Fi posters have introduced me to things that I would otherwise not have known about or not contemplated. I just want to give a little back.
 
May 7, 2018 at 9:06 AM Post #4 of 7
Thank you for your review, @1note ! Perhaps you are already aware that the i2s cable is supposed to require running for a really short length, I don't remember for sure but I think it was below 15''? So your amazing system might be even further improved...
 
May 7, 2018 at 9:50 AM Post #5 of 7
Hi @1note,

Thank you for the review!
It's very emotional to read your review. I've the similar feeling when i read 6moons Srajan's review of Terminator last year.

Congrats to both DENAFRIPS & Jay's Audio! The hard work paid off!

Many thanks.

Rgds,
Alvin @ Vinshine
 
May 13, 2018 at 7:35 AM Post #7 of 7
OneNote , Nice systems you built ,. I recently purchased a Denafrips Terminator which quickly replaced a new PS Audio Direct Stream Dac senior, Love it .

Thanks Loose-Leaf for your kind words! And Congrats on your Terminator!

I posted on the main Terminator thread about why I am using CD playback and not hi-rez and wanted to put it here too. I understand many think that the CD is inferior to the best new digital technologies. 4 years ago I put together 2 systems, an analog and the best digital I had heard which was a CD ripping system, to pick my number 1 system. The digital system was not commercially available, a no brand designed and handmade by a digital design wiz and only for a few friends. I knew one of those friends and got the magic nod. The heart was his DAC with 60 NOS computer chips and no digital filtering and a massive separate PSU with several hand-wound silver transformers. It also included a New Old Stock (“NOS”) Apple notebook, his design and built USB interface playback card, NOS Japanese switch, NOS Network-Attached-Storage and NOS Apple router, each with his hand-wound silver wired transformer power supplies and his silver-wired cabling. It cost $40k for all this playback equipment and this did not include his CD ripping equipment. It was the best digital I had heard, but the analog system I put together blew it away for me in many aspects including, realism, naturalness and most importantly, detail. I then sold the digital system.

This experience, together with some respected comments every now and then from a variety of quarters that excellent CD playback has surprised people as to how good it can be even compared to hi-rez like your good sell on the Terminator thread, together with analog being my number 1 source, my having space constraints in all 3 systems for adding streaming, and the excellent results I am now getting from the Jay's CDT-3 MK2 and Terminator (surpassing my memory of that $40k system by the way) have left me content to enjoy the Terminator fed by the CDT-3. Until people hear a Terminator fed by a CD player as good as the Jay's Audio CDT-3 MK2 and playing any of a number of excellently recorded CDs, they do not know how good CD playback can be. The excellence of the CDT-3 MK2 / Terminator combo really took me by surprise. I had no intention of buying two sets, but after I had heard this combo I could not go back to what I had been listening to before either in my speaker system or headphone system.
 

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