Denafrips 'Pontus' R2R ladder DAC - close up view

Apr 29, 2025 at 2:17 AM Post #2,296 of 2,307
Anyway, I actually placed an order last night (before my posts above) with PerformanceAudio for some wire (Mogami W2549, and Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad cable), Neutrik connectors, and sleeves for some DIY XLR cables...



Until then...

Materials for XLR custom cables arrived today…

XLR-Cable-Matrials.jpg

Left Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad Cable, right Mogami W2549 Cable. Neutrik black/gold and Nickel/Silver 3-pin connectors. Two tone snake colored braided sleeving.

Will be making my first sets of XLR cables later this week. Can't build and hear them.

Until then.... :relaxed:
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 7:34 AM Post #2,297 of 2,307
Materials for XLR custom cables arrived today…

Left Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad Cable, right Mogami W2549 Cable. Neutrik black/gold and Nickel/Silver 3-pin connectors. Two tone snake colored braided sleeving.

Will be making my first sets of XLR cables later this week. Can't build and hear them.

Until then.... :relaxed:
Very nice! Let us know how it goes and the audible difference you hear. What interconnect cables are you using now?
 
Apr 29, 2025 at 3:30 PM Post #2,298 of 2,307
Materials for XLR custom cables arrived today…

XLR-Cable-Matrials.jpg

Left Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad Cable, right Mogami W2549 Cable. Neutrik black/gold and Nickel/Silver 3-pin connectors. Two tone snake colored braided sleeving.

Will be making my first sets of XLR cables later this week. Can't build and hear them.

Until then.... :relaxed:
Looks like a fun project, I'm excited to see how they turn out and sound. I considered trying to make my own cables but I lost the use of one of my hands after having the cervical Laminectomy surgery.

I switched out my iem cable from the effect audio Cleopatra 2 (silver cable) to the Eros S 1st Anniversary cable (silver copper) today and it added a nice boost to the bass. Now that the Pontus 15 is burned I'm really loving it 😍.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 4:40 AM Post #2,299 of 2,307
Materials for XLR custom cables arrived today…

XLR-Cable-Matrials.jpg

Left Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad Cable, right Mogami W2549 Cable. Neutrik black/gold and Nickel/Silver 3-pin connectors. Two tone snake colored braided sleeving.

Will be making my first sets of XLR cables later this week. Can't build and hear them.

Until then.... :relaxed:
Very nice! Let us know how it goes and the audible difference you hear. What interconnect cables are you using now?
And here's one set made using the Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad Cable, snake sleeving and silver Neutrik connectors. Cable length is 1.5 feet since I wanted shorter cables for my stacked gear.

1-and-half-foot-Morgami-Custom-XLR-cables.jpg


This Mogami W2534 Neglex Quad wire is impressive with the Neutrik nickel plated connector with silver plated pins and was exactly what I was searching for in an XLR cable - a balanced cable with great bass, imaging, mids, detail, and vocals. At this point, the hunt for XLR cables is over.

While Worlds Best Canare L-4E6S cables have great staging, and clarity, they didn't quite hit hard and deep in the bass regions. The imaging is also a step above and sounds as though the imaging height and front / back is improved.

I also used Better Cables Flagship Blue Truth ULTRA Audiophile Balanced XLR Cables, which run $220 a pair @ 1.58 foot. They have excellent upper range and detail retrieval, though can get a little sibilant with some phones, example my HEKSE, due to their (HEKSE) sharp edges. Not so much with the Sennheiser HD800 S though as the edge notes are more rounded, and not so sharp as the HEKs. No sibilance with the Mogami wires, though the Mogami's aren't as hot (bright / sibilant) as the Blue Truths, so you don't get that "to the nth detail" the Blue Truths can bring, but as I said, they can also be too bright.

Not so with the Mogami wires. What you get is a slightly warm, but highly detailed cable with excellent imaging, and outstanding bass extension.

Keep in mind this is what I'm getting out of "my" system with these cables as configured. YMMV.

Denafrips-Setup-w-Hermes.jpg
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 3:51 PM Post #2,300 of 2,307
Has anyone directly compared the Ares 15th to the Pontus 15th? Looking for impressions on how big the difference is.

I already own an Ares 15th that size-wise matched my KGSHHV amp but have ordered a new amp that size-wise matches the Pontus 15th. Wondering whether I should upgrade the DAC as well. Driving an X9000, which can be described as fairly bright so want to make sure the Pontus 15th would be a good match and a good upgrade

No one responded to this so placing this here for anyone curious:

I ended up buying a Pontus 15th as well and I'm currently sitting and AB-ing it with the Ares 15th. The difference is substantial.

Significantly more engaging and the soundstage is much larger. I think the Ares sounds slightly warmer but you lose a lot everywhere else. Running both on my KGSSHV with X9000s (eagerly awaiting my Soren KI).

Highly recommend anyone choosing between the two to look for all the pennies under the couch and spring for the Pontus!

I'll also AB the Pontus with my Gustard X30 on my speaker setups later and post more feedback for anyone interested.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 4:33 PM Post #2,301 of 2,307
I'll also AB the Pontus with my Gustard X30 on my speaker setups later and post more feedback for anyone interested.
I'm very interested since I have currently shelved my Gustard R26 and Cyan2 in favor of the similar little brother to the X30, the excellent Gustard X26III.
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 4:35 PM Post #2,302 of 2,307
I ended up buying a Pontus 15th as well and I'm currently sitting and AB-ing it with the Ares 15th. The difference is substantial.
Highly recommend anyone choosing between the two to look for all the pennies under the couch and spring for the Pontus!
Thanks, but you're already in the "Pontus thread" so yeah, many of us have a Pontus :relaxed:

But yeah, the Pontus 15th is a great DAC. Definitely loving mine. BTW, if you add a DDC it will sound even better ☺️

I have a lot of respect for the Ares and what you get out of it for the money spent. If I hadn't been so keen on getting the Denafrips Artemis headphone amp, I'd of ended up with the Ares as I love its size; but being the Denafrips Artemis is the same size as the Pontus, that's where I went. And yes, the Pontus is the better performer, still..... I wouldn't mind having an Ares 15th, but I don't need another DAC since I'm still holding onto my Pontus 12th-1 as well.
 
Last edited:
Apr 30, 2025 at 5:00 PM Post #2,303 of 2,307
But yeah, the Pontus 15th is a great DAC. Definitely loving mine. BTW, if you add a DDC it will sound even better ☺️
I'm very curious about one of these. I'm currently streaming from a Raspberry Pi using HQPlayer with USB input into the Pontus 15th.

Running the Raspberry Pi with a standard USB cable and a linear power supply but connected through a WiFi extender due to the weakness of the Raspberry PIs internal WiFi connector. I've been trying to figure out how big a difference a DDC (or USB isolator) would make without a (large) computer in the chain. Would you say the Iris or Hermes would significantly enhance things?

I'm very interested since I have currently shelved my Gustard R26 and Cyan2 in favor of the similar little brother to the X30, the excellent Gustard X26III.
Doh, I'm heading out in 4 hours for a 10 day break in Italy! I'll be sure to do some comparisons as soon as I'm back.

BTW I did an AB for my wife with the Ares and Pontus. Even she could tell the difference. I think that's enough proof for everyone lol
 
Apr 30, 2025 at 6:27 PM Post #2,304 of 2,307
Running the Raspberry Pi with a standard USB cable and a linear power supply but connected through a WiFi extender due to the weakness of the Raspberry PIs internal WiFi connector. I've been trying to figure out how big a difference a DDC (or USB isolator) would make without a (large) computer in the chain. Would you say the Iris or Hermes would significantly enhance things?
A DDC (Digital to Digal Converter) is not that type of device where its sole job is USB cleanup....

 
Apr 30, 2025 at 10:50 PM Post #2,305 of 2,307
I'm very curious about one of these. I'm currently streaming from a Raspberry Pi using HQPlayer with USB input into the Pontus 15th.

Running the Raspberry Pi with a standard USB cable and a linear power supply but connected through a WiFi extender due to the weakness of the Raspberry PIs internal WiFi connector. I've been trying to figure out how big a difference a DDC (or USB isolator) would make without a (large) computer in the chain. Would you say the Iris or Hermes would significantly enhance things?


Doh, I'm heading out in 4 hours for a 10 day break in Italy! I'll be sure to do some comparisons as soon as I'm back.

BTW I did an AB for my wife with the Ares and Pontus. Even she could tell the difference. I think that's enough proof for everyone lol
Had the same experience with the Pontus 15 and Ares 2 after my first night of A/Bing them I listed the Ares 2 for sale. Debated next between getting new streamer or an Iris. Since currently streamer didn’t have USB output went with a streamer first.

Figuring it has i2s output I would hear a sound improvement and feel it does sound better than the wiim pro. Was wondering if you’re raspberry pi happens to have a better audio hat that you could try i2s or is it stock? Also did you find the linear power source to improvement in sound quality?
 
May 1, 2025 at 4:30 AM Post #2,306 of 2,307
Had the same experience with the Pontus 15 and Ares 2 after my first night of A/Bing them I listed the Ares 2 for sale. Debated next between getting new streamer or an Iris. Since currently streamer didn’t have USB output went with a streamer first.

Figuring it has i2s output I would hear a sound improvement and feel it does sound better than the wiim pro. Was wondering if you’re raspberry pi happens to have a better audio hat that you could try i2s or is it stock? Also did you find the linear power source to improvement in sound quality?
same question here, ddc (iris) or streamer (which one)? i'm using pontus ii and playing music through usb macbook pro, usb cable (viborg)
 
May 1, 2025 at 4:50 AM Post #2,307 of 2,307
I've been trying to figure out how big a difference a DDC (or USB isolator) would make without a (large) computer in the chain. Would you say the Iris or Hermes would significantly enhance things?
I would go with USB isolator first ($50-$100). Or two. It won't be wasted when you buy DDC later. See posts on the Douk Audio Poorman DDC thread from members who already have a good DDC like DI-25HE.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top