d-Jays from Jens of Sweden impressions
Jul 11, 2006 at 3:07 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

The_Duke_Of_Eli

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I'd like to first thank Jens and Martin for making this possible, and everyone at the meet had a good time with them, and you will be getting a call or two
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. Onto the impressions

[System]

Ipod mini (FLAC)
Turbo Dock II
DIY I/C (silver?)
Little Dot Micro
d-Jays

[Build quality]

I can't comment on every aspect of the IEMs because they are pre-production, and I have been told that their y-adapter and plug will vary from the final product. I will not therefore post pictures, but the pictures on their sight do do justice to their size and looks. The actual IEMs are about the length across at their widest point of your index fingernail and as thick as the tip of your tongue. The cable is relatively thin, but still seems sturdy. I loved the staight plug, and I hope they don't go to right angle plug which really makes the cord adjustment in your pocket awkward as you have to again make a 90 degree angle with the cable in your pocket to get it straight out. I'd also like to make note of another very interesting design choice. The cable is 0.6 meteres (24 inches) long. A nice change from the 1.5m cables which can be just ridiculous for portable. Tyll at the Hamilton, Canada meet made a good point that the true minimum cable length should be able to reach your portable rig on the floor when you're sitting on a plane. He tried it and said it would probably just be perfectly sized.

[Fit and insertion]

The only tips available were the bread and butter soft rubber black tips, much like those included with Shure IEMs. I usually use medium shure foamies, but to get a good seal I found that the small tips fit best, and I've been told that the final retail product will also ship with extra small tips for those of you with very small ear canals. The insertion of these IEMs can be done just like standard earbuds, or to loop them around the ear à la Shure. I found just regular insertion the best because the IEMs are not at all heavy in the y-adapter like the ER4s which needa shirt clip to offset their weight. My kudos goes out to Jens of Sweden for designing the easiest IEM to insert that I've ever tried. With your index finger near the tip in front and your thumb on the back, the entire IEM acts as a lever for incredibly effortless insertion. Great design. I still did the ear lift to ensure the best possible fit, but no more awkard positioning.

Isolation is what you would expect from rubber tips, about 20 db, which probably seems like more with music playing. Microphonics were still an issue, but maybe just a tad better than some other offerings (E2cs).

[Sound quality impressions]

Most people at the Hamilton meet agreed with me that these are some incredibly unique IEMs. I wanted to give them a good try with many kinds of music, and the D-Jays excel at some, and some are lacking. I started out with rock music, and these really blew me away. The bass hits you first, and is right in your ears, very strong, imagine Shure E4 strong. Maybe a tad boomier, but not overly so like the Westone UM2s. They're very agressive and in your face. Not like any other budget IEM I've ever tried. These are the perfect mix of the SR-60's fun, the SR-80's bass and the MS-1's overall soundstage. Of course the soundstage is slightly compressed, but the music is so "fun" that it's forgiveable. I'm not saying that they have a real Grado soundstage, but it's closer to that soundstage then any other headphone. It really reminded me of the fun I first had with my SR-60s. Jazz was next on the block and it pulled it off fairly well. The double bass was very prominent, but not overpowering. The midrange was present, noting too special and the highs were fine but I found that they were slightly rolled off, but this was only a real problem with higher-pitched piano vocals and some trumpet solos.
The last to try which I always find difficult with IEMs is classical music. I put it primarily through solo piano music, probably the hardest music to properly reproduce, which I've only heard properly on my Etymotic ER-4s. Chopin felt slightly lacking, and I beleive that these headphone would have benefited from a bit more resolution in the higher ranges. This isn't that much of a gripe seeing the price range of these IEMs.

[Conclusions]

I felt that the d-Jays are what other budget IEMs should be like. Looking at the other budget offerings from Etymotic, Shure and UE (ER-6i, E2c, Super-fi 3 pro) I feel that instead of focusing on trying to mimic their higher-priced IEMs, they should try to do most things right within reason, and try to create a real contender, not dissapointments. The clean and prominent bass are incredible when compared to all other budget IEMs, the midrange is I would say on par with the shure E2cs and ER-6is, but I found the highs a bit too rolled off in some peices, where the ER-6is excel more. Overall, for 80$ (pre-order, check the d-Jays site), these are a great contender in the budget IEM field, and these are the only budget IEMs to date for me that do one thing right: they're really fun. I can't wait to hear the Q-Jays (the dual-driver offering coming soon from Jens of Sweden)

P.S.: I'll be happy to field some questions here if people have things to ask.


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Thanks to a local toronto head-fier I got my hands on some bi-flanges (etymotic ones). I shoved them on the etymotics to give them a whirl. What a world of difference. Classical cleaned up, making everything classical, even piano solos incredibly enjoyable. Female vocals are clear, and the veil over the midrange has greatly improved. This tops the E3s and UM1 handily, and gives the ER-4s and E4cs a good run for their money. Instrument seperation has improved, and the bass is the same quantity, but even clearer. Best IEMs for anyone with broken EX-71s or who discover that the KSC-75s aren't all that? Hell yes. The biflanges make them look funny, and they're harder to insert, but just buy d-jays, a pair of biflanges and never look back. Nothing bar UM2s/E5c/E500s will make you want to upgrade from them. I was sad giving up the ER-4s, but these beauties will hold me off for a long while. Beautiful. Puts anything else in the pricerange to shame.
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 3:21 AM Post #3 of 16
Eloquently put, they are most assuredly a great entry-iem. I've owned both the UM1 and er6i and heard the e2c. For my money unless you love hyper-detailed, they are the best. The UM1 I found muddy, with uncontrolled bass and severly rolled-off treble. The er6i were the opposite of this, detail to the point of harshness, with relatively no low-end. The e2c were essentially garbage IMO.

The D-Jays seem to share the same sonic signature of the UM1. They are also muddy in the top end with a decent midrange and some uncontrolled bass. That being said, I believe they best the UM1 in every aspect. They have tighter bass, more controlled mid-bass and a better high-end. The insertion and fit is better as well, with no hearing-aid-itus present. I personally much prefer flanges, but the included tips are alright. It all comes down to personal preference with IEMs anyways.

Essentially, if I were to again buy a budget-IEM these would be my first choice. Theres no way I ever would as I personally find them lacking far too much to make it worth my while, but I would heartily endorse this product if anyone was looking in that market segment.

Thanks again for bringing them, it was a pleasure to hear a new product, especially one that seems the best of the bracket.
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 4:00 AM Post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
Eloquently put, they are most assuredly a great entry-iem. I've owned both the UM1 and er6i and heard the e2c. For my money unless you love hyper-detailed, they are the best. The UM1 I found muddy, with uncontrolled bass and severly rolled-off treble. The er6i were the opposite of this, detail to the point of harshness, with relatively no low-end. The e2c were essentially garbage IMO.

The D-Jays seem to share the same sonic signature of the UM1. They are also muddy in the top end with a decent midrange and some uncontrolled bass. That being said, I believe they best the UM1 in every aspect. They have tighter bass, more controlled mid-bass and a better high-end. The insertion and fit is better as well, with no hearing-aid-itus present. I personally much prefer flanges, but the included tips are alright. It all comes down to personal preference with IEMs anyways.

Essentially, if I were to again buy a budget-IEM these would be my first choice. Theres no way I ever would as I personally find them lacking far too much to make it worth my while, but I would heartily endorse this product if anyone was looking in that market segment.

Thanks again for bringing them, it was a pleasure to hear a new product, especially one that seems the best of the bracket.



UM1 muddy? Unless they change drasticly over time, I would not describe mine as muddy at all. So far, they are probably one of the neutralest headphones I have. I really enjoy them.
Didn't you have the older version of the UM1? maybe there is a difference, mine are brand new.
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 4:21 AM Post #5 of 16
Well I'm not sure exactly what you mean by muddy. I am referring to the fact that in quick music the music seems to blur together, especially in the top end. The details get mushed together, the highs sound rolled-off and give a "muddy" sound IMO.
 
Jul 11, 2006 at 2:35 PM Post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
Well I'm not sure exactly what you mean by muddy. I am referring to the fact that in quick music the music seems to blur together, especially in the top end. The details get mushed together, the highs sound rolled-off and give a "muddy" sound IMO.


I'm not really feeling that. My single complaint so far is that sometimes the cymbals can sound slightly muted, is that what you mean?

Overall, I would compare the sound signature more to, say, the HD280 than the k240S.

I'm EQ'ing the UM1 with my Zen Micro, I had to bring the entire frequency range down -12db so that a volume level of 1 would not be too loud. My EQ right now is -10 -11 -12 -12 -12, which brings the bass forward just a slight bit. Sounds pretty good to me.

I would like to compare to the D-Jays at some point, they sound like a fun kind of earphone.
 
Aug 22, 2006 at 2:15 AM Post #7 of 16
UPDATED! Tried them with bi-flanges, a MUST READ FOR ANYONE LOOKING FOR NEW IEMs
 
Aug 23, 2006 at 12:53 AM Post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by The_Duke_Of_Eli
This tops the E3s and UM1 handily, and gives the ER-4s and E4cs a good run for their money. Instrument seperation has improved, and the bass is the same quantity, but even clearer. Best IEMs for anyone with broken EX-71s or who discover that the KSC-75s aren't all that? Hell yes. The biflanges make them look funny, and they're harder to insert, but just buy d-jays, a pair of biflanges and never look back. Nothing bar UM2s/E5c/E500s will make you want to upgrade from them. I was sad giving up the ER-4s, but these beauties will hold me off for a long while. Beautiful. Puts anything else in the pricerange to shame.



Looks like I'm going to have to put off purchasing iems for a while
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Sep 29, 2006 at 11:52 PM Post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by The_Duke_Of_Eli
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EDIT! 21/08/06[/size]

Thanks to a local toronto head-fier I got my hands on some bi-flanges (etymotic ones). I shoved them on the etymotics to give them a whirl. What a world of difference. Classical cleaned up, making everything classical, even piano solos incredibly enjoyable. Female vocals are clear, and the veil over the midrange has greatly improved. This tops the E3s and UM1 handily, and gives the ER-4s and E4cs a good run for their money. Instrument seperation has improved, and the bass is the same quantity, but even clearer. Best IEMs for anyone with broken EX-71s or who discover that the KSC-75s aren't all that? Hell yes. The biflanges make them look funny, and they're harder to insert, but just buy d-jays, a pair of biflanges and never look back. Nothing bar UM2s/E5c/E500s will make you want to upgrade from them. I was sad giving up the ER-4s, but these beauties will hold me off for a long while. Beautiful. Puts anything else in the pricerange to shame.



With the d-JAYS now shipping, I'd like to bring this thread back from the dead. So as confirmation, these are same biflanges you used? I'm most curious in how they'd sound with triflanges as well.
 
Sep 30, 2006 at 1:54 AM Post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by kazaam
With the d-JAYS now shipping, I'd like to bring this thread back from the dead. So as confirmation, these are same biflanges you used? I'm most curious in how they'd sound with triflanges as well.


I'm curious to know this, too. (Strength in numbers, right?
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Sep 30, 2006 at 10:58 AM Post #13 of 16
to me, d-jays sounds lack of body, details and lack of extension at both ends...
 
Jan 17, 2007 at 1:48 PM Post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by kazaam /img/forum/go_quote.gif
With the d-JAYS now shipping, I'd like to bring this thread back from the dead. So as confirmation, these are same biflanges you used? I'm most curious in how they'd sound with triflanges as well.


I have the same question. The etymotic web site lists different bi-flange tips for the er6 and er6i and states that they aren't cross-compatible (er6 tips can't be used on er6i, etc.). So which one is the best fit for the d-jays? I really like the sound of these, when I have a good seal, but the included tips will not stay in my ears, and I have to continually re-adjust them to reset the seal when I'm using them, especially when flying.
 
Jan 17, 2007 at 3:45 PM Post #15 of 16
Try to use some foamies for your Djays, it really works wonders, at least for me.
Much more comfortable and deeper/punchier bas it also adds to the isolation...

They also benefit from a burn in,I did my burnin with pink "noise" for apr 10 hours..

Regards
Claus
 

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