Cypher Labs C6iem

[SammisAran]

Hey all, 

I hopped in on the massdrop deal as well. Just getting to testing them out. My only thought so far is that I'm not digging the cable aesthetically. Does anyone know what kind of connectors these are and where I can find them. I was thinking about trying my hand at making some cables. 

From what little research I have done, it seems that buying new cables from someone else is outrageously expensive.

Thanks!

 

[acain]

Hey all, 


I hopped in on the massdrop deal as well. Just getting to testing them out. My only thought so far is that I'm not digging the cable aesthetically. Does anyone know what kind of connectors these are and where I can find them. I was thinking about trying my hand at making some cables. 


From what little research I have done, it seems that buying new cables from someone else is outrageously expensive.


Thanks!

Go check out the diy cable.

 

[noobandroid]

they are

Hey all, 


I hopped in on the massdrop deal as well. Just getting to testing them out. My only thought so far is that I'm not digging the cable aesthetically. Does anyone know what kind of connectors these are and where I can find them. I was thinking about trying my hand at making some cables. 


From what little research I have done, it seems that buying new cables from someone else is outrageously expensive.


Thanks!

they are recessed pin, the cables aren't expensive if you know where to find

 

[SammisAran]

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they are recessed pin, the cables aren't expensive if you know where to find

I figured that much out on my own. I guess I was looking for help in sourcing them. Also if anyone knew if they were .75mm recessed pin, or .78mm recessed pin. I guess both are used and I'm not sure what that dimension refers to.

 

[Dlirium]

So, I spent literally 2 hours with these in my head last night. I then went back and forth a bit with my home system. They do sound lovely.  I agree with most everyone's assessment - solid, not bloated bass, tight controlled mid-range. Beautiful detail, separation, sound stage. BUT, there is a lack of high end extension and air. Cymbals are hard to hear, Maraca's almost non-existent. Female voices have a distinct lack of "ssss" (sibilants) on the "S". Do you hear that as well?
 
I guess, in the grand scheme of things, $400 speakers (as small as they are) are just not THAT great (decent home speakers cost 10x-20x that). So maybe I'm asking too much?  I'm just not quite understanding all the love for these given the lack of ultimate top end...
 
Really looking for more perspective from y'all

 

[Carlsan]

What source were you using?
 
Just noticed that there is a big difference with the big grey fomies and the other tips. The great formies, they were attached to my set when I got it, seems to lesson the bass somewhat but opens up the mids and top in somewhat. Sound-stage seems bigger as well.
As has been said, because they move the earphone away from the ear perhaps?

 

[coachhouse]

Has anyone attempted to remove the stock cables ? I used quite a bit of force and they didn't budge both Noble and Heir are relatively easy to remove but these feel like there welded on

 

[Carlsan]

Just pulled cable off, had to pull carefully, and use fingernail to help loosen it at contact point.
They are tight.
 
When I did the other, one of the two pins pricked my thumb. I can now say that I have given blood for this hobby!

 

[ibs63]

Just noticed that there is a big difference with the big grey fomies and the other tips. The great formies, they were attached to my set when I got it, seems to lesson the bass somewhat but opens up the mids and top in somewhat. Sound-stage seems bigger as well.

I had the same experience with the grey foam tips.

 

[Dlirium]

OK, great input!  I will "roll" tips to see what I hear.  Also, Drew at Moon Audio recommended trying this:
 
http://www.moon-audio.com/audio-cables/moon-audio-silver-dragon-v1-iem-headphone-cable.html#
 
I hate to throw good money after bad, but I *really* want these CL's to work for me. I will definitely give ups some bottom end extension for "air"...
 
Can anyone confirm the CL's cable pins are to some sort of standard?  (sorry, quite new to all this)

 

[Carlsan]

I'm using Moon Audio's Black Dragon with mine, they are the standard old style Westone connectors. Two pin connectors.

 

[vhsownsbeta]

I'm using Moon Audio's Black Dragon with mine, they are the standard old style Westone connectors. Two pin connectors.

What is your impression of what the black dragon brings to the C6?

 

[Carlsan]

What is your impression of what the black dragon brings to the C6?

 
My cable is balanced, going into my AK120ii, so hard to say what is being caused by the balanced output of the 120 and the cable.
With listening to just a few songs, overall, better resolution but I have to admit not as much difference to the sound as using the longer grey foam tips.

 

[Compassionator]

Got mine from MD too.  Preliminarily after about 72 hours break-in:  I don't find them dark.  And not rolled on the top either. Just balanced, clear and grainless sound.  There is a slight emphasis on the mid/upper bass and a tactility to the sound which gives each instrument/voice great definition.  Otherwise nothing that draws attention away from the music or makes the iem sound like it is imposing its will on the sound.  Some iems that seem neutral upon initial listening are actually a bit on the bright side and can become fatiguing over time.  And some that seem a click on the "dark" side can become just right over time.  These are the latter.  Of course this depends on your hearing and the depth and seal of the iem, how loudly you play your music and whether you are coming from a "bright" iem or not .  Ergonomically/functionally, these feel lightweight, fit well and are easy to get a proper seal; comfortable with the silicon large tips (for me).

 

[musiclvr]

Sonic bliss....

Hello all! I thought I would attempt to write a brief review of the Cypher Labs C6iem Balanced Armature Earphones. I have always appreciated reading impressions about headphones that I am curious about so I hope that this will do just that for someone else.

Source Chain/Components: Mac Mini>16/44.1- 24/192 tracks>Audirvana+>Schiit Wyrd USB Decrapifier>Meridian Explorer v.1>Cypher Labs AlgoRythm Picollo Headphone Amplifier (set to low gain)> Cypher Labs C6iem Balanced Armature Earphones.

Songs used:
-Yiruma –“Kiss The Rain” (String Version) (16/44.1)
-CC Coletti - “You Shook Me” (24/192 Binaural Recording)
-Wycliffe Gordon-“St. Louis Blues” (24/192 Binaural Recording)
-Norah Jones- “I’ve Got To See You Again” (24/192)
-James Blake- “Retrograde” (16/44.1)
-Andrew Rayel & Armin Van Buuren- “Eiforya” (16/44.1)

Lows- The sub-bass and mid-bass leaves plenty of room for one another. They are both articulate, weighted, posses amazing slam (when called for), and are never bloated. This iem is tilted towards sounding dark but in no way veiled. They are not u shaped to my ears being that the lows align with the mids quite well. Rather, the highs are not neutral lending towards a tilted sound signature.

Mids- WOW!!! The mids ,as far as vocals are concerned, are spot on. They are not necessarily warm but natural. The mids to my ears are detailed, intimate (without sacrificing any spatial details), and are just plain clear.

Highs- Here is where I must say that this iem is lacking but not failing. The highs have a presence that has to be sought out. I say this because the highs are not airy and with some recordings sound a tad distant to my ears. They are detailed, clear, are never strident/sibilant/screechy, and still have a beautiful shimmer to them that never offends you.

I do feel that this IEM has a dark sound signature but in a seductive way, even euphonic. My listening sessions have never been interrupted due to ear fatigue with this iem. It is not euphonic in nature by way of sounding too liquid or lush though. This iem does not mask details in achieving said sound signature. In fact I am still amazed at how acoustic/wooden instruments and the piano sound with these. You can hear the pianists’ foot as it maneuvers the peddles of the piano or a violinist take calculated breaths during a solo. So yes, the C6 can convey detail but not at the volume/level of the mids and lows. The C6 has really good PRaT and is speedy while displaying space with a black background. It is never sibilant unless it is given a poor source recording. The C6 conveys a wide and tall soundstage to my ears but isn’t so much holographic as I might want it to be due to the tamed highs. It also provides a lot of depth into a recording and can sound very intimate but not rounded.

In comparison to the Cardas EM5813 I feel that the C6 is the winner hands down. I feel that the EM5813 does not have the PRaT of the C6. Although the Em5813 has a wide soundstage it is more rounded in comparison. The C6 is more clear and effortless in detail retrieval. The EM5813 can sound congested with some busy tracks and this, I feel, is due to the lack of treble presentation as the highs are severely veiled. The one focus the Em5813 excels over the c6 is in the mids. To my ears the EM5813 are ever so slightly more natural next to the c6. This can be due to the fact the Em5813 has a single dynamic driver taking on every analog signal as opposed to the 3 balanced armature with a passive crossover configuration in the C6.

Until next time Happy Listening!!