[outsidelookingin]

wow, that thing is SLICK. or should I say Sleek. hah

For now I'll stick with my Micro, but when the day comes that I need over 5GB of music in my pocket, I know what I'll be researching..

 

[Sparky191]

You might like to try Notmad Explorer - by Red Chair Software, Inc. I prefer that with my Zen Micro.

 

[Electric_Mofo]

The supplied carry pouch is very poor to be honest, I was expecting a proper case but this will have to do until I oreder a Noreve case.
I heard somewhere that It was UMS compatible but I will try to find out more information about that. As for me planning to keep this, yes I think I will be holding onto this for a year a two. I not to worried about features such as ogg, colour screen or video playback. All I really needed was an FM radio and good sound

 

[Electric_Mofo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by insomniac In the description of the dock for the Zen Sleek, it mentions that it has a line out port. This opens the door for a dongle to get the line out. Just like the iPod.

Yes it does, which is pleasing

 

[DigDub]

so software is needed for transfer of music? how is the sleek different from the 20gb zen other than the design? i prefer the look of the sleek though.

 

[GSTom1]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric_Mofo I heard somewhere that It was UMS compatible but I will try to find out more information about that.

On their website, Creative Labs mentions the features of the Zen Sleek:

Features:
FM radio, FM recorder and voice recorder
Contacts, calendar and tasks
Repeat, resume, and random play
5-band graphic equalizer
Functions as an external hard drive

Functions as an external hard drive is all the details they will give. Whatever that means is anyone's guess but I assume they mean without software.

 

[Electric_Mofo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSTom1 On their website, Creative Labs mentions the features of the Zen Sleek: Features: FM radio, FM recorder and voice recorder Contacts, calendar and tasks Repeat, resume, and random play 5-band graphic equalizer Functions as an external hard drive Functions as an external hard drive is all the details they will give. Whatever that means is anyone's guess but I assume they mean without software.

The Zen Sleek allows a 16GB removable disc option, I'm not to sure what thats all about to be honest

 

[Sparky191]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric_Mofo The Zen Sleek allows a 16GB removable disc option, I'm not to sure what thats all about to be honest

You need to specifically set how much space you want to use for data. The space allocated for data can't be used for music and vice a versa. once space has been allocated for data, just connected to a machine with no Creative drivers and see if it appears as an external HD and allow you to copy to it using windows explorer. If it does then its UMS. If it prompts you for the drivers, then it isn't.

 

[mark.s]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSTom1 ...Functions as an external hard drive is all the details they will give. Whatever that means is anyone's guess but I assume they mean without software...

If it's the same as the Zen Micro, you have to go to Extras -> Removeable Disk to get the External Harddrive-mode

Also, the pc doesn't need any drivers to recognize the ZM in this mode.

 

[LFC_SL]

Question is, will this player help Creative out, who went into the red in the last quarter?

 

[DoNotBugMe]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky191 The Zen Micro isn't UMS. (At least mine isn't) You need a driver even for data. I thought I read somewhere that there is a newer firmware that enables UMS (for data) without a driver, but I haven't had a chance to find and/or try it.

The Micro (and Sleek and Zen 20GB) is UMS when in Removable Disk mode. This means it acts as a removable drive, just as a USB flash memory drive does.

However, the player itself cannot access any files that are stored on the Removable Disk partition. It is only useful for storage/transfer of files. You need software to transfer music that is playable on the player.

In addition, you can store data files without enabling Removable Disk mode - but you need special software to access files with this method. This method is therefore redundant on these newer players.

 

[GSTom1]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoNotBugMe The Micro (and Sleek and Zen 20GB) is UMS when in Removable Disk mode. This means it acts as a removable drive, just as a USB flash memory drive does. However, the player itself cannot access any files that are stored on the Removable Disk partition. It is only useful for storage/transfer of files. You need software to transfer music that is playable on the player. In addition, you can store data files without enabling Removable Disk mode - but you need special software to access files with this method. This method is therefore redundant on these newer players.

Great! This is exactly as a suspected, but I was thrown for a loop when Sparky191 said the his Zen Micro was not UMS.

This setup allows Creative Labs to offer UMS without feeling like it is encouraging music distribution and piracy. It's alomost like the iPod in that you can transfer music files to the iPod from your computer but cannot transfer music from the iPod to another computer.

 

[MIKEp]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSTom1 It's alomost like the iPod in that you can transfer music files to the iPod from your computer but cannot transfer music from the iPod to another computer.

well u could put the music into the removable disc area to transfer it if u know what songs you want to move.

 

[CaptainChet]

On my Micro I read a tip on this board to set the sensitivity of the touch pad to HIGH for best control. Strange as it sounded it really worked!! Perhaps the same will work for the Sleek.

I will probably get one when I can. I really like the sound of the Mini with my UM2's!

 

[Sparky191]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSTom1 Great! This is exactly as a suspected, but I was thrown for a loop when Sparky191 said the his Zen Micro was not UMS.....

Apologies, but I've only had mine a week and I'm still playing with it. I didn't realise you had to turn on the Disk mode to use it without drivers, DOH. Just tried this and it does work as a UMS in that mode. Sorry.