Corsair RAM question

Dec 9, 2005 at 2:29 PM Post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by Hey_Its_Cole
Really dont waste your money on tccd or BH5, overclocking ram shows little real world gain, you will notice a diiference with dual channel ram but not worth droping a gig of what you have. Post your system specs and I will go from there. I disagree on upgrading your cpu, it is pretty fast allready. For graphics rendering for 2d, ram is what really makes the difference mainly with quantity, I suggest you join the forum I suggested and make the same thread there that you made here. There are people there that know what is best for this kind of thing. Computers are my main hobby but I spend my efforts on gaming so my real world experience is not there for your needs. I am seeing a lot of not so good advice in this thread and they will not mis guide you there. Any ill advice posted there gets shot down very quickly. [Ak]Zip is a active member there as well.

If you have aim feel free to im me specific questions, my SN is BoleCailey about how to overclock in bios etc. I have the following but I dont do much photoshop stuff.

AMD dual core 4400 x2
Nvidia XFX Gforce 7800gt
2 x 1 gig of nothing special G skill ram 2 gigs total
Epox 9npa+ sli motherboard
Maxter 200 gig sata 16mb cache hardrive
And $400 or so dollars worth of water cooling crap.



I agree with most of what you've said, although I dunno that good advice will necessarily be given at an overclocking forum. I've been a member at HardOCP since about '98 and I can tell you that they are the same way with computers that we are with headphone gear. Which is to say that they will tell you tighter memory timings or dual channel make on OMG huge unbelievable world-changing difference. Kinda like buying a fancy power cord or interconnect or iso-blocks will make an OMG huge unbelievable world-changing difference. There may be improvent but not to that degree. It's hyperbole.

The fact is, the original poster has a pretty decent system already. If current performance is not satisfactory, there's only so much that can be done. For Photoshop and other 2D work, I still say that what would make a difference are things like a faster CPU, multiple CPUs (or a multi-core CPU) but only if the software makes use of multiple CPUs, more RAM - although 2 gig is already a lot for general use, up to 4 gig COULD be helpful depending on the specifics of the work (like manipulating really huge files), and a faster disk storage subsystem - probably a RAID array. None of these options are especially cheap, so I guess I'd encourage thinking about how much better performance is worth it to you. If it's your job and can be written off as a business expense or you find yourself waiting instead of working, it may be worth the money. If you're more like "Eh, I suspect things could be faster than they are now...", it may not be.
 
Dec 9, 2005 at 5:51 PM Post #32 of 34
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Originally Posted by Elec
I agree with most of what you've said, although I dunno that good advice will necessarily be given at an overclocking forum. I've been a member at HardOCP since about '98 and I can tell you that they are the same way with computers that we are with headphone gear. Which is to say that they will tell you tighter memory timings or dual channel make on OMG huge unbelievable world-changing difference. Kinda like buying a fancy power cord or interconnect or iso-blocks will make an OMG huge unbelievable world-changing difference. There may be improvent but not to that degree. It's hyperbole.

The fact is, the original poster has a pretty decent system already. If current performance is not satisfactory, there's only so much that can be done. For Photoshop and other 2D work, I still say that what would make a difference are things like a faster CPU, multiple CPUs (or a multi-core CPU) but only if the software makes use of multiple CPUs, more RAM - although 2 gig is already a lot for general use, up to 4 gig COULD be helpful depending on the specifics of the work (like manipulating really huge files), and a faster disk storage subsystem - probably a RAID array. None of these options are especially cheap, so I guess I'd encourage thinking about how much better performance is worth it to you. If it's your job and can be written off as a business expense or you find yourself waiting instead of working, it may be worth the money. If you're more like "Eh, I suspect things could be faster than they are now...", it may not be.



I agree, as many will tend to recomend expensive ram I.E. $150 a stick per gig and for real world aplications, it offers little gains but on that forum they are pretty good about not recomending that stuff for general users. Well people will, but more experienced users usually stop it.
 
Dec 11, 2005 at 2:29 AM Post #33 of 34
Alright, I've decided right now, I'm justing to upgrade my video card ( eyeing a Geforce 6600GT) because I started to play games A LOT lately (Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 2) and I'd like to play them at a better quality setting, which I didn't think would happen when I build my system.

As far as CPU, I'll hold on to mine for awhile, OC it a little until I feel it's safe to throw a bunch of money on a dual core CPU, which I will probably come here for recommendations because I don't know too much about them or which would be good for me.
 
Dec 20, 2005 at 10:05 PM Post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by Hey_Its_Cole
Actually, I dont think that, I meant to say 1T VS. 2T comand rates with 4 sticks of ram.

Though now that we are talking Dual channel, are all of your ram stick you currently have the same?



Actually, 2T degrades the memory performance by only about 3 percent - nowhere near enough for anyone to complain about, particularly with an Athlon 64 platform (which already has exceptionally low latency to begin with).

On the other hand, if the memory is on an Intel platform, the 1T/2T command rate setting is not applicable because Intel's chipsets do not officially support command rate settings. However, on a DDR400 Intel platform, you may see your memory speed drop to 166MHz (DDR333) with four double-rank modules, which will degrade overall performance somewhat on Intel platforms (which love a lot of memory bandwidth to begin with).
 

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