Comparison: Westone 3 and Westone UM3X, using Westone UM-56 custom tips

May 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 58

Edward Ng

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Let me preface this comparison by saying that the UM-56 tips are the best tips I've ever used on the Westone IEMs, bar none. By far the best for comfort and sound quality. Isolation is just as good as the best universal tips I've used (though not necessarily better). Additionally, I'd like to preface this comparison by stating that I have not read anyone else's comparisons between these two so as to avoid my impressions being affected by other reviewers' results.

Okay, first off, I'll state the setup specifications for this first test/comparison event (there will be more tests with other equipment I own later on).

Source: My PC, playing back max bitrate VBR MP3s and lossless FLAC/ALAC files, via foobar2000's WASAPI output mode to my Nuforce Icon Mobile DAC/amp. I chose this as my initial testing setup because of the Nuforce Icon Mobile's dual headphone outs.

My pair of Westone 3 have something like 500 hours of listening on them. My Westone UM3X have maybe 25 hours on them at most (probably less). Balanced armature IEMs should not need break in, so make what you will of this discrepancy. I apologize that I don't have comparably new Westone 3s on hand, but I was a pre-order customer for both IEMs from Earphone Solutions.

We'll start with the products themselves. The cable for both IEMs is identical in every way imaginable, so there's nothing to compare (not even length). However, I would like to note that the Westone 3 comes very nicely wound up in the retail container, whilst the Westone UM3X was tightly bound and as a result came from the factory with a crease/kink in the cable where the threads are splitting just slightly--not an issue for my pair of Westone 3s.

As far as build quality of the monitors themselves, I have to definitely give the nod here to the Westone 3s. The casing design and quality of moulding has a clean, high-quality, high-precision commercial look and feel to it, smooth and refined. I feel that this is far less the case for the UM3Xs, which appear much less refined and like a lower-volume, almost hand-made product (paying particular attention to the forming of the base of the nozzle, where it leads away from the body of the monitor). I rather think that professionals care less about this sort of thing so long as they are durable and perform well, whereas at a consumer level, the Westone 3s need to show excellent polish to compete with the Sennheisers and Shures of the world, so in a way this makes plenty of sense. Aesthetically speaking (this is obviously a subjective opinion here), I prefer the clean and simple, smooth look of the 3s over the UM3X, particularly when paired with universal tips. I must admit that there is a harmony to the clear outside shell of the UM3Xs when pairs with translucent custom tips though, like my UM-56s.

For fitment, I give the win to UM3Xs over the 3s; the smaller bodies and the angles of the nozzles allow the UM3Xs to nestle more flush in the ears. Because there's a flare out at the base of the nozzles on the UM3Xs compared to the flat base of the 3s' nozzles, I find that different tips will have better fit on one or the other. For the UM-56 tips, they happen to work just as well on either one because my UM-56 tips came with a rather wide bore at the nozzle end; they wouldn't even really attach to the Westone IEMs until I came up with the solution of using de-flanged triflange tip cores to gap the space. As such, when I mount the UM-56 tips to my UM3Xs, I can nestle the flare at the nozzle base into the wide bore opening on the back side of the tips. For the 3s, they sit flat against the body, flush. Comfort is pretty much the same when using the UM-56 tips between the two, as they tend to push both IEMs out farther than flush compared to universal tips (though not as far out as the ACS tips do to my IE8s). With universal tips, I definitely give the nod to the UM3Xs as far as comfort is concerned, though.

Okay, the meat of this experiment, the comparison of sound. First thing I must note is that while the differences between the two are noticible, they are fairly subtle and the fact of the matter is that it's very easy for the sound of one to be preferable to one person and the other one to be preferable for the next person--basically speaking, I really don't think I can specifically say that one sounds better than the other all the time, it depends on the taste of the listener and the genre of music.

That being said, I so far have come to the conclusion that for my ears, which are particularly sensitive to high frequencies, both of these IEMs are on the very slightly bright side. It's not bad enough to cause listening fatigue for me, but it is definitely anything but dark sound coming from either of these IEMs. Now, as far as the highs themselves, I feel that the UM3Xs have better air and extension than the 3s; however, they (the UM3Xs) also seem brighter than the 3s for that reason. From a detail standpoint, the UM3Xs produce the more convincing cymbals. When it comes to sharp consonants in vocals, the UM3X is sharper and more airy. I feel that it is in the high frequency range where the biggest difference is perceivable between the two.

In the mids, the UM3X presents a more up-front presentation, particularly in vocals. It's not in-your-face, just more forward than 3.

On the bass end of the spectrum, the Westone 3 presents a slightly warmer sound as a whole, a somewhat bolder bass presence with a bit more oomph. Extension downward seems pretty even between the two, both being fairly substantial at the bottom end, with the 3s being only slightly more so than the UM3X.

This concludes my observations for now...I'll follow up next time with specific listening comparisons on several of my personal reference tracks, and then after that I'll chime back in with tests done using my P-51 Mustang and after that probably some final comparisons being fed by my Benchmark DAC1.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 3:53 PM Post #2 of 58
Nice review Ed, still waiting for mine
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Okay, I think I can understand the differences you describe between the UM3X and the W3, but would you rate it as 'cooler' or 'warmer' than the W3?? I'm very interested in the warmth level. Thanks.
 
May 9, 2009 at 4:04 PM Post #3 of 58
Wow, what a nice review Ed. I have always liked how you refuse to speak in hyperbolic terms when talking about audio equipment. As we all know, there is always something better just over the horizon. To be able to write soberly and indifferently is an art, something which you have in spades. You have many IEM's now and it would be great if you could post all of your reviews under one thread.

- on a side note: it seems you have found other tips for your IE8's that you find better than the Sony tips, the ACS. What do you like about them more?
 
May 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM Post #4 of 58
Westone 3 is slightly warmer than Westone UM3X; there's no, "midbass hump," on the UM3X--I feel it is more neutral from the mid lows down to the sub bass. I wouldn't call the UM3X more neutral sounding from an overall tonal standpoint, at least to my ears, because on the high frequency range, it is on the slightly bright side to my ears (again, extremely sensitive to high frequencies). Mids are more forward on UM3X. Overall, I feel that the Westone 3s, if not fatiguing to your ears from a midbass standpoint, are a little more relaxed than UM3X, which is more forward from the mids and up. I liken the Westone 3 almost like listening to UM3X with the, "Loud," turned on, but not so strongly pronounced as a real, "Loud," EQ setting on DAPs--much more subtle than that.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM Post #5 of 58
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Originally Posted by Edward Ng /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Westone 3 is slightly warmer than Westone UM3X; there's no, "midbass hump," on the UM3X--I feel it is more neutral from the mid lows down to the sub bass. I wouldn't call the UM3X more neutral sounding from an overall tonal standpoint, at least to my ears, because on the high frequency range, it is on the slightly bright side to my ears (again, extremely sensitive to high frequencies). Mids are more forward on UM3X. Overall, I feel that the Westone 3s, if not fatiguing to your ears from a midbass standpoint, are a little more relaxed than UM3X, which is more forward from the mids and up. I liken the Westone 3 almost like listening to UM3X with the, "Loud," turned on, but not so strongly pronounced as a real, "Loud," EQ setting on DAPs--much more subtle than that.

-Ed



Thank you Ed. No mention of sibilance or fussy fit, that's good news. And 'cooler' than the W3, also good news
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May 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM Post #6 of 58
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Originally Posted by davidhunternyc /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Wow, what a nice review Ed. I have always liked how you refuse to speak in hyperbolic terms when talking about audio equipment. As we all know, there is always something better just over the horizon. To be able to write soberly and indifferently is an art, something which you have in spades. You have many IEM's now and it would be great if you could post all of your reviews under one thread.

- on a side note: it seems you have found other tips for your IE8's that you find better than the Sony tips, the ACS. What do you like about them more?



Hi, David!

Thanks for your comments; I appreciate all feedback, including that on the quality of the review itself and my writing style.

I'll probably include the IE8s as a third entity on a later part of this thread, but for now I think the main topic at hand is 3 versus UM3X.

The ACS tips are customs; I had the impressions made at the same time as when I had the impressions made for my UM-56 tips. They're a lot...more full shell than the UM-56 tips which I consider true canal-only tips. Being that they are custom tips, there are no uncomfortable high pressure points so I can keep them in for hours, and the isolation level is superb, which is pretty critical on the IE8s, which I consider a difficult IEM to achieve truly good isolation with. Not only that, but the overall tonality sounds more natural with the ACS custom tips than with any universal tip I tried. Imaging, however, seems slightly less accurate compared to some of the universal tips I used--however, imaging is lower on my personal listening priorities list than texture, tonality, dynamics, detail and separation.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM Post #7 of 58
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Originally Posted by soozieq /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thank you Ed. No mention of sibilance or fussy fit, that's good news. And 'cooler' than the W3, also good news
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No sibilance with either using the custom tips, though I feel as the UM3Xs is equally prone to it as the 3s when using the wrong tips.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM Post #9 of 58
I'd like to throw this out there, too: Westone customer service is absolutely superb. When the cable failed on my first pair of Westone 3s, they took them back no questions asked and replaced them with a brand new pair, even in the retail packaging (though he mentioned that this is not always the case--I guess they didn't have any un-boxed spares laying around at the time). This time around, because I e-mailed them to let them know that my UM-56 tips were not made with a narrow enough tube bore to fit the 3/UM3X nozzles, they are making up a new pair and sending them to me directly for free. This is outstanding service in my eye and will definitely help not only to retain me as a Westone customer (particularly down the line should I decide to take the plunge on full customs), but also encourages me to really get the word out on how fantastic their service is, especially in this modern age of cost-cutting.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 5:10 PM Post #11 of 58
Thank you; I wanted to give my initial impressions a little bit of time to sink in, plus I wanted to be sure the initial impressions were written down in a way that conveyed properly how I feel so far. I also have a fairly busy life outside the forum, taking time away from focusing on this lately, so expect that subsequent pieces will come kind of slowly, but much the same high quality.

Random piece of, not entirely related, information is also that I am formerly a contributing writer/reviewer for another tech site (SilentPCReview.com), so I do have some experience in writing these sorts of pieces from working with Mike Chin over there. I know to keep things as objective as possible and to properly convey the degree of subtlety (or lack thereof) in my observations. Where something is purely subjective, I am not afraid to put it down, but I will always cite that it is merely personal opinion. Finally, lest we forget, everyone has different hearing, so I do always note my sensitivity to high frequencies (though now that I am not as young as I used to be, my sensitivity to highs has mellowed out slightly over time, which I think is a good thing from the standpoint of my ability to judge overall tonality).

I know I do not have, "golden ears," but at the same time, I know why they're not considered, "golden ears," and I will always try my best to make up for them with that knowledge in hand.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM Post #12 of 58
Thanks for the report on these.

It's amazing how the UM56 seem to even things out between the two IEM and make the differences narrower. I find my UM56, when used with any of my IEM that fit them (SE530, Image X10, and Westone 3), tend to diminish the flaws that other people hear with the universal tips. I've been preaching to people to get them for months.
 
May 9, 2009 at 7:19 PM Post #13 of 58
So do the UMX3 etc, fit well into the ear with the UM56? I mean, does the body of the transducer sit well as when using the other tips? Who takes the impression for the UM56?

Has the vinyl bothered anyone? Vinyl tends to gas. I am surprised they don't use the same material as with the ESX3, which is more hypoallergenic and they are heat sensitive, which allows for better forming to the ear.
 
May 9, 2009 at 7:27 PM Post #14 of 58
I don't seem to have any issues with...gassing, even over long periods of wear. The vinyl is fine for me.

They fit very well into the ears, although not as well as with universal tips--they do sit less flush than with, say, the triflanges.

-Ed
 
May 9, 2009 at 7:34 PM Post #15 of 58
I would imagine if they used the heat sensitive material they would fit better as they would form after a couple of minutes to the minute differences in the ear canal.
 

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