[lawonga]

Not many people seem to discuss ciem's with huge soundstages. What are some examples of them?

 

[artpiggo]

Zeus R

 

[chef8489]

Out of the many I have tried my Westone es60 have the largest, but I have not tried any of the Noble Audio and not had a chance to try the 64 audio tia forte or u18 tzar yet but I am on the list for the tour and will get to try them in a few months.

 

[normie610]

LCDi4, very wide and holographic soundstage, the best I've ever heard,

 

[chef8489]

LCDi4, very wide and holographic soundstage, the best I've ever heard,

THose are not custon iems or ciems. Do not qualify for this thread.

 

[normie610]

THose are not custon iems or ciems. Do not qualify for this thread.

My bad, I didn't realize the title was CIEM and not IEM. Sorry about that.

 

[lawonga]

Anything from custom art that qualifies as having a 'decent soundstage'?

 

[chef8489]

I demoed the 8.2 and ei.xx for a week and found the es60 to have far more sound stage then them, but it was the demo pairs and they had tips attached.

 

[EagleWings]

Nice thread. Here is a list based on my personal experience and from reviews/impressions:
C = Custom; U = Universal


Personally Tried List:

Extremely Large:
Audeze LCD i4 (U)
64 Audio A18/U18 (C,U)
64 Audio Tia Forte (U)

Super Large:
AAW W900 (C,U)
Empire Ears Zeus-ADEL, Zeus-R (C,U)
JH Audio Layla II (C,U)

Large:
64Audio A10/U10, U12/A12 (C,U)
Earsonics Velvet (U)
Empire Ears Zeus-XIV (C,U)
Noble Katana (C,U)
Rhapsodio Galaxy (C,U)

IEMs I Have Not Tried But Are Known For Their Large Soundstage:

Audeze iSine10/20 (U)
Campfire Audio Andromeda (U)
Dita Dream (U)
In-Ear ProPhile-8 (C,U)
Tralucent Plus5, 1Plus2, 1Plus2.2, Ref.1 (U)

Other Possible Contenders:

Dita Answer, Truth (U)
Lear BD4.2 (C,U)
Noble Encore (C,U)
Perfect Seal AR6 (C)
Rhapsodio Solar (C,U)
Sennheiser IE800, IE800S (U)
Sony XBA-Z5, MDR-EX1000 (U)
Spiral Ear 5-Way Ultimate (C)
Vision Ears VE6 (C)
Unique Melody Maestro V2 (C,U)

 

[Tulku1967]

JH Audio Layla ... wery wide soundstage and perfect layering ... like a full headphone!
The best earphone I've ever heard.

Tomorrow will my U18 Tzar arrived....

 

[tranhieu]

CIEM wise I think metal ones sound largest you can't go wrong with such mechanical resonance done right

 

[lawonga]

CIEM wise I think metal ones sound largest you can't go wrong with such mechanical resonance done right

Metal CIEM's?!

 

[tranhieu]

Metal CIEM's?!

Yep, solid silver

 

[SilverEars]

CIEM wise I think metal ones sound largest you can't go wrong with such mechanical resonance done right

Yeah fake sound stage, the echo effect(like an dsp environmental sound).

Also, silicone material creates a bit of low end reverberation. Warmth, which I take it as meaning low-end bass like when it's warm air feels thick(in which warmth probably coincides with thickness or body with sound), creates as sense of space since for a speaker setup, the subwoofer which depends on size of the environment creates the ambiance effect.

 

[tranhieu]

Yeah fake sound stage, the echo effect(like an dsp environmental sound).

Also, silicone material creates a bit of low end reverberation. Warmth, which I take it as meaning low-end bass like when it's warm air feels thick(in which warmth probably coincides with thickness or body with sound), creates as sense of space since for a speaker setup, the subwoofer which depends on size of the environment creates the ambiance effect.

Well technically any kind of 'soundstage' that is produced by headphones/iem can be considered fake (except for the K1000's and probably the sony prf v1). Real sound localisation involves head & torso interfrence with sound, which is absolutely omitted in headphones/iems