Can't find a Brahms 2nd Sym I like
May 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 8

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I have a couple performances of the others I enjoy. Abaddo and Jochum in the first. Walter and Jochum in the third. Kleiber and Giulini (CSO) in the fourth. There is something off in all the seconds I've tried, usually in the first movement. Walter, Bernstein, Giulini, Abaddo, Jochum don't do it for me for various reasons. Any suggestions?
 
May 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM Post #2 of 8
perhaps the problem is with the Symphony itself. Personally it is the one I like least of the four.
Have you tried Karajan?

 
 
it is a vintage HvK recording: less apollonian of his later self, but still very much bent on sounding "beautiful". If you like his Beethoven cycle of the 60s, you will like this. Unfortunately the sound manages to be  rather harsh and veiled at the same time, at least in the mastering I have (which came as part of the 2008 Karajan box).
 
For me (but I may be in a minority) the guy who really "got" Brahms was Toscanini, and this boxset

 
 
is the one I always go back to (even though as I said I rarely listen to the Second).  As usual, Toscanini gets rid of the post-romantic mush and let Brahms orchestration shine. The sound is also very good, clearer than e.g. in the Karajan above.
 
May 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM Post #4 of 8
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm having a strong reaction to the performances. As in "blech, that's not right." Perhaps it is the symphony after all. I may have to get a pile of recordings. I'm starting to obsess a little over it.
 
May 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM Post #5 of 8
Not a recommendation as such, but a pointer: Celibidache is very ... different. :wink:
 
May 7, 2013 at 9:54 PM Post #7 of 8
The slow movement of the 2nd is one of my favorite symphonic slow movements in the repertoire.
 
My two favorites are:
Furtwangler (1945)

 
Max Fiedler (1931)

 
Listening to Fiedler, I get the sense that this is how the piece should be performed, but Furtwangler is, as usual, very special.  Certainly I haven't heard another reading that finds as much darkness in this piece.
 
 

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