[mpawluk91]

Owning both the E12 and the C&C BH, I decided to ship the E12 back to Amazon. To me, the E12 is a very good amp with only certain types of phones (analytical, neutral, even more tipped to treble). With bassy (not over-bassy), warm phones, the E12 just makes things warm and almost sounds veiled. This is not a criticism, just my view. I had the Arrow 4G and it had a nifty treble boost (2 levels). The E12 could use this feature. Of course, the Arrow costs $299 new, so not a fair comparison. I was choosing here between the E12 and the C&C BH ($99) and with my gear, the C&C came out on top over the E12. I also love the C&C BH's SF control for live recordings.

Read my comparison between the c&c bh and the arrow 4g you'll be shocked http://www.head-fi.org/t/644363/c-c-bh-portable-headphone-amp-80-hours-from-a-single-charge-buyer-review/1395#post_9257775

 

[mpawluk91]

Done and on the money. While I didn't have the Arrow when I got the C&C BH (used some of the Arrow sale funds to finance the C&C), I know that as much as I really did like the Arrow, the C&C may just be a better match with my gear and certainly no slouch by comparison. Is the C&C less neutral than the Arrow? Yes, no doubt about it. But I really do dig the little things the C&C LF and SF switches deliver with many of my phones. I am definitely not keeping the E12. It's a good match with say an Ety Kids (I have a pair) but just doesn't work with what I own. And to me, the $$$ gap between the Arrow and the BH is not worth it. Now, that's just a personal preference, of course. I still think the Arrow is an amazing piece of gear.

Also, I never carry an amp around with me on the street/on the go. Only use it at home really. So the Arrow form factor, not an issue. Of course, the C&C is hardly bulky.

Thanks for that link. I am on the same page.

It really is all about the synergy you know, my senns absolutely love the bh cause how it balances out the dark sennheiser sound

 

[H20Fidelity]

Owning both the E12 and the C&C BH, I decided to ship the E12 back to Amazon. To me, the E12 is a very good amp with only certain types of phones (analytical, neutral, even more tipped to treble). With bassy (not over-bassy), warm phones, the E12 just makes things warm and almost sounds veiled. This is not a criticism, just my view. I had the Arrow 4G and it had a nifty treble boost (2 levels). The E12 could use this feature. Of course, the Arrow costs $299 new, so not a fair comparison. I was choosing here between the E12 and the C&C BH ($99) and with my gear, the C&C came out on top over the E12. I also love the C&C BH's SF control for live recordings.

Exactly what I heard with E11, compared to the sources headphone out.

 

[Swy05]

A question just popped up in my head.  Its related to EMI noise.
 
I'm familiar with EMI noise (the buzzing sound) but is a crackling, popping sound considered EMI noise as well?
 
I'm starting to notice it more with my BH amp.
 
My Fiio E6 has the traditional EMI noise (buzzing) but I never noticed a crackling/static, popping sound with it.
 
But with the BH, I notice crackling, popping sounds sometimes when I pause a song, or when there is silence in the song.
 
Sorry for the noob question.

 

[kimvictor]

Quote:

A question just popped up in my head.  Its related to EMI noise.
 
I'm familiar with EMI noise (the buzzing sound) but is a crackling, popping sound considered EMI noise as well?
 
I'm starting to notice it more with my BH amp.
 
My Fiio E6 has the traditional EMI noise (buzzing) but I never noticed a crackling/static, popping sound with it.
 
But with the BH, I notice crackling, popping sounds sometimes when I pause a song, or when there is silence in the song.
 
Sorry for the noob question.

popping is normal, but i don't know about crakling/static sound. people get static sound from turning the volume nob on certain amps, but I don't know as I don't have a BH.

 

[Gintaras]

pop sound is normal, cracking not...

 

[MusicalChillies]

Pop noise when turning on is normal. I now have 2 of the amps and neither exhibit crackling when rotating the volume pot and that is with high gain/LF on. I would suspect a cheap interconnect or a possibly dodgy LOD or even interference from the source.
 
As I have said above, I now have 2 of these
 

 

[ravager]

What sinth said. I would look to the output jacks first, since they were loose to begin with. Try out 2 and see if you still get the cracking. A dirty pot could also be the culprit, and if the cracking is amplified, then it could very well be the LOD or 3.5 to 3.5 cable.

 

[ravager]

By the way, I am still loving this little amp, H2O. It makes my X11 X10 with double flanged tips come alive. Best 100 bucks I have spent in a long time, especially with that insane battery life.
 
edit: too much Linux lately.

 

[Gintaras]

Rav, right, i just forgo to suggest checking the lod cable first, happened to my daughter using iPod as well... the lod can be the real culprit.

 

[Swy05]

Well tried testing it out more. Even tried 2 other 3.5 interconnect cables. On out2 the crackling is there but its less noticeable. Definitely more noticeable on Out1. It only seems to happen when I pause a song or when I turn on the BH.

In airplane mode however, the crackling noise is gone on both out1 and 2. Even when a song is paused or when I turn on the bh, it seems to gone.

Im guessing my S3 is causing a lot of interference. Or the BH is sensitive to my S3.

But I always assumed EMI noise is a buzzing noise, not this crackling sound

 

[H20Fidelity]

By the way, I am still loving this little amp, H2O. It makes my X11 X10 with double flanged tips come alive. Best 100 bucks I have spent in a long time, especially with that insane battery life.

edit: too much Linux lately.

Yes, BH was a great find for most it seems, I still only charge mine once every 2 - 3 weeks.

Sounds crazy saying that, though it continues pumping out the same impressive SQ!

@~Sinth: Your photo has been added to the members rigs album on the first page.

 

[Dark Helmet]

Quote:

Well tried testing it out more. Even tried 2 other 3.5 interconnect cables. On out2 the crackling is there but its less noticeable. Definitely more noticeable on Out1. It only seems to happen when I pause a song or when I turn on the BH.

In airplane mode however, the crackling noise is gone on both out1 and 2. Even when a song is paused or when I turn on the bh, it seems to gone.

Im guessing my S3 is causing a lot of interference. Or the BH is sensitive to my S3.

But I always assumed EMI noise is a buzzing noise, not this crackling sound

Airplane mode is the only relief for this unfortunately.
 
I have the Note 2 and I went through the same thing.  I didn't mind putting it in airplane mode.  I figured that if I missed a call or text I could just check my messages later.  It does suck I know.  Perhaps there may be a future fix for this on an update, but I probably wouldn't bank on it.

 

[Swy05]

Quote:

Airplane mode is the only relief for this unfortunately.
 
I have the Note 2 and I went through the same thing.  I didn't mind putting it in airplane mode.  I figured that if I missed a call or text I could just check my messages later.  It does suck I know.  Perhaps there may be a future fix for this on an update, but I probably wouldn't bank on it.

Thank you for the input.  I remember you mentioned you had a Note2 with the same problem.  It kinda stinks.
 
It's just strange.  Or at least new to me.  I've heard EMI noise before and it's a buzzing noise.  My Fiio E6 has this problem.
 
But the BH's crackling sound is something I've never heard before because of EMI noise.

 

[ravager]

Thank you for the input.  I remember you mentioned you had a Note2 with the same problem.  It kinda stinks.

It's just strange.  Or at least new to me.  I've heard EMI noise before and it's a buzzing noise.  My Fiio E6 has this problem.

But the BH's crackling sound is something I've never heard before because of EMI noise.

I have to recommend getting a dedicated DAP. I have an HTC Thunderbolt and the EMI interference on the BH is pretty bad, even when using IPod classic and LOD. I can't imagine how bad it would be with a phone piggy-backed with BH.